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One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
For those of you that don't have Sonik Synth2, SampleMoog, or Sample Tron, you can get all 3 synths for $99 at ESOUNDZ but, it's only for 1 week. If you want or need only 1 of those, they're going for $49.99 each and when purchasing, please use a referral name as we both get Epointz. I'm thinking of getting SampleMoog and possibly Sample Tron as I don't have those.... My Esoundz name is also Mesh
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/04 14:50:09
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does that also count toward the group buy? so would we get one free one of equal or lesser value if we bought it?
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/04 15:01:55
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Beagle does that also count toward the group buy? so would we get one free one of equal or lesser value if we bought it? unfortunately no....here's a few rules from the thead at KVR: [link=http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=325227]http://www.kvraudio.com/f../viewtopic.php?t=325227[/link] "Some rules on this. These are the full versions of the product but the serials do not qualify for the IK group buy, you can't use your epointz on them, you can't upgrade from them or transfer them. They are specially made just for this super low cost promotion. But if you want any of these popular virtual instruments for a really HIGHLY affordable price then this is it! Again, we're going to have to be strict this time about the one week time frame with no extensions. Spread the word to anyone who would benefit from this (you CAN still EARN epointz for referrals as always)." The downside of these rules is you can't upgrade from these full versions, but you do get a $200+ (full price) synth for $50 with a boatload of sounds (SonikSynth2 alone has about 8GB's of very useable and good sounds).
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/04 18:49:26
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I'm thinking of getting SampleMoog and possibly Sample Tron as I don't have those.... I have had both of those for more than a year, and have yet to find a single application for either of them. SampleTron, being a faithful reproduction of the Chamberlin/Mellotron originals, sounds just as awful as the real thing. I would only use it if I were specifically trying to cover an old King Crimson tune or something. And SampleMoog, well, it's a sampled synthesizer, which is just wrong. It's like buying a slideshow of your favorite action movie. Want something fun to spend your fifty bucks on, check this out.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/04 19:41:30
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bitflipper I'm thinking of getting SampleMoog and possibly Sample Tron as I don't have those.... I have had both of those for more than a year, and have yet to find a single application for either of them. SampleTron, being a faithful reproduction of the Chamberlin/Mellotron originals, sounds just as awful as the real thing. I would only use it if I were specifically trying to cover an old King Crimson tune or something. And SampleMoog, well, it's a sampled synthesizer, which is just wrong. It's like buying a slideshow of your favorite action movie. Want something fun to spend your fifty bucks on, check this out. LOL Wait a tick? Sampled synths = wrong, but sampled guitars = right? Half kidding - I've played guitars forever yet I admit a few sampled guitars made it into the final mix of one or two songs of mine (well, that was more sound re-inforcement than anything, but, anyway...)
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/04 20:58:29
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sorry bit - I gotta agree with Rain on this, I was thinking the exact same thing!
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/05 01:24:34
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bitflipper It's like buying a slideshow of your favorite action movie.
I've gotta side with bit on this one. Oh, how I miss my old Roland SH-09. it wasn't a Moog, but it was a somewhat old school analog synth. Tweaking the oscillators and filters on the fly could produce remarkably varied sounds. At best, a sampled synth is just snapshots of particular settings. You don't really have the incredibly fluid dynamics of the synth. That said, in a given song, the settings will probably be fairly consistent, so the samples may be ok. But if you want to pull off Emerson, Wakeman, or Jarre, you'll want to twist some knobs.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/05 11:16:55
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Well, I have to admit there is some irony in dismissing sampled synthesizers while embracing sampled guitars. Both are a compromise and neither is a suitable substitute in all situations. The difference is that the former limits your tonal possibilities while the latter limits only your expressive possibilities.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/05 12:41:47
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I suppose that's the benefit of having the hardware version over the software, but when comparing the price difference of each and the option of having a synth at the fraction of the "real deal"......then there's no comparison. I'm just happy that there's all this software that's easily available for me to experience that I never would have been able to do(harware-wise). Bit you may be right on this as I'm also re-thinking if getting SampleMoog/Tron is worth it (I already have about 40GB in the SampleTank library).....and I have some Moog/Tron sounds included in ST which I've not yet really got into.....I just may not have a taste for that sound or not given it enough experimenting, although others may think it's the next best thing to sliced bread (some of the hardware (Moog/Tron) fans over at KVR praised these software versions).
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/16 13:56:36
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Mesh, I cannot thank you enough for the heads up on that sale. Finally bought SampleTron last night (well, more like early this am). Old 50's and 60's horror/sci-fi movies are one of my biggest source of inspiration ever, and that thing is like landing straight in the middle of one of these. We often think of Trons as the flute in Strawberry Fields or the strings in Court of the Crimson King, but that's merely scratching the surface... The drum loops, the sampled guitars, the organ sounds, tape noises and fx - to me, that's what this plug is all about. Strings and flutes and choirs are already available everywhere, including in ST, but all those other retro sampling goodies, man, that is absolutely PRICELESS! This thing will make my upcoming 6 months guitar-less trip a lot easier to live.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/16 15:22:24
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You're most welcome Rain!! I'm glad you were able to make use of the special. I thought about getting the Tron or Moog, but instead spent my money on the Black 76 at IK (totally love it...it just gives so much punch to the drums/mix!!). I also recently got Kontakt4 (finally) and have already spent most of my GAS quota. 6 months on a guitar-less trip should increase your keyboard chops drastically. If you have link to your music, I'd love to hear what you do.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/16 15:36:17
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The Black 76 is amazing, isn't it? I love it - the White 2A is awesome too, but I find myself using the black one on lots of different things. This was indeed an IK summer here - easily 3/4 of all I bought. And I'm just hooked to their Custom Shop. Yeah, I guess I'll have plenty of time - it's pretty much the only thing I'll have to do. For the time being, nothing I consider worth listening - I sort of put all my projects on hold and I'm just writing and doing some prep work for my fiancée's next album. But I'll make sure to let people know when this one comes out. :)
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/16 17:07:39
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Thanks for all the support guys! We have more surprises on the way!
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/16 23:14:54
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We have more surprises on the way! You'd better not be getting our hopes up, just to dash them with another iPhone app, Obi. ST3 would be a nice surprise. Say that's what it is...ST3 at a killer upgrade/loyalty price would be even better.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/17 00:31:01
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+1 on the upgrade/loyalty pricing. What enhancements would ST3 have?
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/17 06:30:49
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bitflipper Well, I have to admit there is some irony in dismissing sampled synthesizers while embracing sampled guitars. Both are a compromise and neither is a suitable substitute in all situations. The difference is that the former limits your tonal possibilities while the latter limits only your expressive possibilities. I think one of the big differences is software synth emulations provide a real and better alternative to sampled synths. Things like Minimonsta, the Korg Mono Poly VSTi, Pentagon Z3ta etc are far better than any hardware synth I ever owned. I do have some sampled synths, Hollow Suns Matrix 1000 for example, but even with the scripted filters and envelopes it's still limited in comparison to the real thing or some of the software synths. On the other hand he products by Orange Tree and Indiginus currently are as good as you will get without getting a real guitarist even if they still have a way to go.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/17 10:40:36
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I have arrived at one inescapable conclusion with regard to sales. They still take my money........
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/17 14:18:16
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We can't give out any info on SampleTank 3 yet but SampleTank iOS does take a few features and many sounds from SampleTank 3. And we have a few surprises that are and that aren't iOS. ;)
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/17 19:04:15
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bitflipper And SampleMoog, well, it's a sampled synthesizer, which is just wrong. Have to disagree, bit, although until just recently I pretty much was in your camp on this issue. What changed my mind was getting my hands on a sound library called Analog Universe - Memories, which is a collection of sfz files based on sounds created with the Alesis A6 analog synth. The library (which I'll be reviewing in the next issue of Wusik Sound Magazine) comes with presets for Alchemy, Rapture and Dim. Pro. Those presets are OK, but what has me totally excited are the possiblities in creating the presets myself in Alchemy. The creator of Memories, Elemental Arts, has done all the heavy lifting here. Many of the pitched sample sets sound fabulous on their own, but all kinds of additional sound animation and manipulation can be added with a powerhouse synth like Alchemy. My assertion is that this can be the best of both worlds ... you couldn't get this kind of a rich sound out of single cycle waveform oscillators. But starting with first rate multisamples in a really good synth presents all kinds of opportunities. And you don't even have to be a sound design wizard to get highly satisfying results. Even with SampleMoog, though, I think you can make a case why this could be a good thing. I just got SampleMoog as my freebie with the IK anniversery sale and haven't played around with it too much. But there seem to be some wonderful sounds in there (and certainly there are *lots* of sounds in there). Even if SampleMoog doesn't compete with Alchemy for on-board effects, my growing collection of external effects, like the six effects many of us picked up in the D6 group buy, open up all kinds of possibilities. Anyway, my 2 cents on this topic.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/17 23:27:36
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OK, OK. I can see I'm in the minority here in my disdain for sampled synthesizers. I surrender. I'm waiting for the classic vocalist libraries...Freddie Mercury, Barbra Streisand or Roy Orbison sing the alphabet, and you string the samples together to create your own original masterpiece. And IK will have a version for your iPhone.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/18 00:16:48
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Admittedly, I don't have a tenth of a quarter of the knowledge some of you guys have when it comes to synths. I'm a guitarist first, and synths weren't really the "in" thing when and where I grew up (unless you were a wuss... Kinda funny now that I think about it now). I never really owned a hardware synth (except uber cheap ones) or messed with one in real life, so my only references are on record. This lack of first-hand experience probably explains why, out of two similar patches, one synth, one sampler, I often prefer the sampler. However, I can understand how someone used to the real deal doesn't expect the same thing as I do when we both hear the word "Moog".
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/18 12:31:21
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I'm in the same boat. I grew up on the technology we now take for granted and I have synths but sometimes I'd rather have a good preset and add FX than program in sounds.
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Re:One Week Sale at Esoundz!!
2011/08/18 21:36:02
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to some odd degree... I'm just glad I've yet to hear a gtr software package that actually isn't obviously fake. Sure.. make it sound like a pedal steel, but the VanHalen wannabees have nothing to worry about.
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