Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent

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2011/08/05 14:42:19 (permalink)

Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent

Greetings; I installed Z3ta+ Ver 2 last nite, and i absolutely love this synth.
 
I noticed that while using Ver 2 in standalone mode, certain presets were totally silent until i disabled some of the FX. For instance, in soft leads, Lush Notches FS has zero volume until Modulation is disabled, at which point it seems to play fine. Several other presets were also like this in Soft Leads.
 
I didn't have a chance to try these same presets in VST plugin mode, but i used Ver 2 alot inside Sonar last nite and this morning, and  i didn't notice any silent presets. Only in standalone mode, at least so far.
 
Anyone else notice this? I installed Ver 2 in x64 flavour. PC specs below.
 
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    Keebo
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/05 18:12:08 (permalink)
    I get a MIDI error upon opening the standalone version and crashes every time I try to change MIDI inputs but in VST mode, I noticed at least a dozen presets were silent in the Pads 1 bank.  I haven't gone through all of the banks yet but I suspect there will be more silent presets found.

    64 bit version here as well.

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/05 23:14:56 (permalink)
    GlennKay and Keebo: Could be a glitch with your installations. I tried Lush Notches in standalone mode and it played fine with both the preview ribbon and through my MIDI keyboard. I also went through in standalone mode all the Pads presets between A and F (up to G). They all played fine, however, the volume levels on several were almost at zero when I tried them through my keyboard. They seemed to be louder through the preview ribbon. I'm also running Z3TA+ 2.0 in only the 64-bit version.
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/25 05:01:22 (permalink)
    I must admit, I have a whole stack of silent presets too. (Using FL Studio 10) and was hoping for a more conclusive answer. Probably related, but a absolute "noob question" - Search as I might, I cannot find anywhere what the meanings are of the letters in the brackets in the presets - (eg (MW)(Velo)(Sync) etc, etc). I can take an educated guess at some of them, but was wondering if there was a list compiled anywhere? I was thinking that perhaps that might relate to the silent presets?? EDIT: I've since discovered that this is appears to be random. For example, I might use "Arp bubbling" (z3ta+ Classic Content>Arps) and it works fine. It then stops working for no apparent reason, I save and exit then fire up the program again, load the saved project and it works again. Very frustrating.
    post edited by Laughing Beagels - 2011/08/26 01:04:20

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/28 01:10:05 (permalink)
    Having same issue here as mentioned here on cakewalk FB page
    http://www.facebook.com/CakewalkInc/posts/10150286791417420

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/29 00:13:54 (permalink)
    I too have noticed a few silent presets however, I think on some they are set to an arppegio and need to have the velocity raised to sound.
     
     
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/29 08:23:12 (permalink)
    I have seen silent presets as well, not often, but it happens. Just by browsing through presets using the small arrows, suddenly there is a silent preset. Then clicking the arrow for next preset, there is sound again (in that preset of course). Then clicking the arrow for previous preset, and now it is NOT silent anymore. This is inside of Sonar with Z3ta inserted. Sonar X1c, win7 x64.
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/30 15:34:28 (permalink)
    I'm another user who has problems with missing sounds. It all seems to be a bit random. I also get a pop up box stating that such and such isn't available and would I like it to retry (it's a bit like the pop up you get when you open something on a DVD/CD and then remove the disk but haven't shut the thing you opened down - the program tries to access the disk but it isn't there).

    Roll on the correcting patch.

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/08/31 07:34:08 (permalink)
    Just to clarify the above problem:

    I can reproduce the error I found. Boot up the 32 or 64 bit standalone versions, try to select the"Simulations" menu and I get the pop up which states:

    There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk5\DR5.
    Cancel     Try Again     Continue.

    If I press Try Again two or three times it gets past this stage but choosing another patch can make it come up again.

    It doesn't happen when using Sonar X1c.

    Cakewalk are looking into this but I wonder if anyone else has the same problem.

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/04 21:57:26 (permalink)
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/15 19:31:17 (permalink)
    Rasure


    Having same issue here as mentioned here on cakewalk FB page
    http://www.facebook.com/CakewalkInc/posts/10150286791417420


    Any chance of some feedback on this from Cake, seems to be related to Win7 x64

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/16 03:09:34 (permalink)
    See my post and the reply / follow-up in this forum entitled 
    "z3ta+2 no sound from MOST DSF/Wave Scapes patches, nor from a few patches in other libs".
    For whatever reason, at least one of the machines I was having this problem on suddenly fixed itself. 
    However, as a check I tried installing the 32-bit version and running it under Live 8 - the Arps don't work at all on that version.  No sound unless I disable the arpeggiator, in which case there is sound from the patch but no arpeggiation.
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/16 03:16:16 (permalink)
    More odd, the problem with the 32-bit version occurs under Live 8, which is a 32 bit app, but does not occur when running bridged under Reaper x64.
    UPDATE: This is actually due to a bizarre interaction between Live 8 and Z3ta+2.  The arpeggiator in Z3ta+2 only works when the Live 8 transport is in the "running" state (i.e. when you press play).  When the transport is stopped it (apparently) makes the plugin think that the tempo is zero BPM.  Not really sure whether to chalk this up to bad behavior of one or both systems.
    post edited by tungsten carbide - 2011/09/16 12:34:07
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/19 07:40:46 (permalink)
    I got Z3TA 2 yesterday (addicted to it already!) and have found several of the classic presets (mainly pads) to be silent. Haven't investigated why yet but some interesting ideas on here. I'm using it as a VSTi on Sonar X1C, both 64-bit. Haven't tried it standalone yet.

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/28 23:12:02 (permalink)
    Same problem here.  Many patches are silent.
    Using Windows 7 64-bit.
    Great synth, though.  For what works!



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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/29 14:46:17 (permalink)
    Hey guys -

    The update is coming soon. We figured out what was wrong and got it fixed.  Z3TA+ 2.1 will be out in a week or two, so this will be fixed, as well as a ton of other little tweaks, improvements, enhancements, and a couple cool features too!

    Stay tuned 


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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/29 15:06:05 (permalink)
    No other hints, Brian?  I read that scala was back.  What other beans can you spill?

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/30 14:19:53 (permalink)
    Hey AT -

    OK, here are 2 tiny ones :)

    - There's a new 'most recent patch' list in the Programs menu now, so you can see the last 20 patches you used (also includes ones from clicking the dice).
    - it's easier to use the Ribbon Latch now - you can just right-click on a note in the ribbon controller to latch it - and the ribbon now lights up when you're using the mouse so you can see what notes are latched.
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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/09/30 15:44:45 (permalink)
    Cool.  Look forward to it.  Mush, Brian, mush.  Stop messing around on the forums.  No days off for you!

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    Re:Certain Z3ta+ 2 Presets Silent 2011/10/07 07:37:42 (permalink)
    Just for the record the silent presets issue was fixed for me with the Z3TA+ 2.1 update :-)

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