In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop

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2011/08/07 09:37:05 (permalink)

In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop

Hi there, I'm in need of a low-cost laptop for Music Recording and Editing.

The main problem I'm facing right now is that I can't find a laptop with decent spec WITH a firewire interface(although there are some very pricy ones)

The info I need can be divided to three questions:
1)In general, what would be a reasonable laptop specs for a DAW laptop?
2)Is a firewire interface is neccessery?
3)if yes, is there an easy way to add firewire interface to a laptop without it?
if no, can I use usb audio interface(if they exist :) )

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    Mystic38
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/07 10:18:56 (permalink)
    1) the most power you can afford... i bought a refurb HP DV6-3160US for $650
    2) no, you dont need a firewire interface..
    3) USB2.0 provides for more than adequate bandwidth.. but certainly get a USB audio interface with enough functionality for your now and future needs.. a) just avoid the $49 ones at all cost.. :)
    b) at a MINIMUM you will need stereo line in, mic/guitar in, stereo out, headphone out (with vol adjust)..
    c) i RECOMMEND balanced line in and line out for noise isolation purposes
    d) this puts you to the $149 and up..check reviews before you buy as user feedback is the key to ease of use
    e) if you have the budget NI Komplete Audio 6 is very capable... at $299..but you can pay as much as you like :)
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    zoobooboozoo
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/07 13:18:56 (permalink)
    Thanks for the help.

    Is there a well known/trusted site where I can "build" my desired laptop specs from scratch just like I want it?

    cause I guess it would be kinda difficult to find laptops with separate Hard Drives which are important for a DAW and obviously a few more parts I'd like to tweak :)
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/07 13:59:22 (permalink)
    Asus G73 series. It has USB3 out and is capable of being chipped up to 12GB RAM. I use mine for on-location video editing. Better spec laptop than you'll ever be able to build. 
    Not, however, low cost. 

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    bz2838
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/07 15:48:17 (permalink)
    Try ADK, they make computers especially for audio http://www.adkproaudio.com/
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/07 16:26:00 (permalink)
    I spent about $1800 on my laptop JUST to get the firewire port.  There are some cheaper computers that have them, but I couldn't justify putting a great deal of money into a computer that doens't have the power to do the job.  IMO, any laptop with 5400RPM HD will have performance programs unless you are doing only a couple tracks of audio.  Now my laptop is MORE powerful than my main tracking desktop... and faster of course.  I had to have the firewire port since my interfaces are firewire.

    I got mine at Bestbuy with 18 months no interest. woo hoo. :)

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 03:12:08 (permalink)
    express slot to firewire might be a nice way to go about.

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 08:46:07 (permalink)
    Hi
    Why not talk to Jim Roseberry at Studiocat / Purfect Computers - he is a member of this forum and is very knowledgeable re audio computers - I have a system from him and have been very impressed.
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 09:26:42 (permalink)
    I use the Rain Livebook with the i7 processor.  It has firewire built in, plus came with a Texas Instruments (very important) Firewire Express card.  I got this one because it also has an eSATA port which I use for streaming Samples/Audio.  Comes with Virtual XP software for surfing the web virus free. 

    You get what you pay for.  Depends on how hard you plan to push your system and how much headache you want for not spending more.

    I started cheaper with a different brand (Dell) that said it had firewire and 7200 RPM hard drive (I prefer 10000RPM), turned out to have a 5400rpm hard drive.  Then another model said it had firewire and didn't.  Long story short, sent 4 back then went with RAIN since the specialize in audio laptops.  I'm already a pretty experienced audio computer tweaker myself, so I could tell they knew what they were doing.
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 10:25:17 (permalink)
    Get a Dell Studio XPS, I have one... awesome. 
    http://www.dell.com/us/dfh/p/studio-xps-1647/pd

    Get the higher Res screen and a 7200 RPM drive
    I upgraded mine to SSD and use the E-sata port for the old internal 7200 drive in an enclosure.

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    Jim Roseberry
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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 12:02:00 (permalink)
    express slot to firewire might be a nice way to go about.

     
    Often, off-the-shelf laptops use the same (crap) brand Firewire and Express-card controller.
    IOW, You aren't circumventing the original problem.
    While it may work... it likely won't work nearly as well as a quality TI chipset FW controller.
    If you're going with an off-the-shelf laptop, do yourself a major favor and use a good USB 2.0 audio interface.

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 16:18:55 (permalink)
    If you use a firewire interface on Win 7, I'd strongly suggest you manually install the "Legacy" windows driver.  The instructions are on the net. It's very easy; it only takes literally 30 seconds.  All of my firewire interfaces wouldn't work right in Win 7 until I did it.  Dropouts galore before I did it...

    -Donald

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 16:26:46 (permalink)
    Hey, Donald Duck,
     
    please tell me, what laptop did you buy?
    An what is the make of the firewire controller.

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/08 16:30:15 (permalink)
    Dropouts galore before I did it...

     
    Legacy mode is required for many Firewire audio interfaces under Win7 (particularly those that haven't had a driver update in a good while).  But... some Firewire audio interfaces like RME and Steinberg units work fine with the standard Win7 FW drivers.  In fact, the MR816 won't work if the FW controller is in legacy mode.
     
    It's easy to switch the FW controller's driver to legacy and back... so no worries either way

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/10 18:15:32 (permalink)
    Zonno


    Hey, Donald Duck,
     
    please tell me, what laptop did you buy?
    An what is the make of the firewire controller.


    Hey. Sorry I missed this before. I got a Toshiba Qosmio X505-Q8104 18.4-Inch Gaming Laptop.  Besides the fireware port, i7 processor, 8GB Ram, and huge screen, another cool thing is the 1TB Hard drive space.  IT has two 7200 RPM half TB Hard drives, making it ideal for audio.  I keep Sonar, Sibelius, Wavelab, etc. on one HD and shoot the audio to its own HD.  It's awesome, but it's extremely heavy.
    post edited by DonaldDuck - 2011/08/10 18:16:58

    -Donald

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    Re:In need of a low-cost DAW Laptop 2011/08/10 18:29:31 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry



    Dropouts galore before I did it...

     
    Legacy mode is required for many Firewire audio interfaces under Win7 (particularly those that haven't had a driver update in a good while).  But... some Firewire audio interfaces like RME and Steinberg units work fine with the standard Win7 FW drivers.  In fact, the MR816 won't work if the FW controller is in legacy mode.
     
    It's easy to switch the FW controller's driver to legacy and back... so no worries either way


    Yeah, the Tascam DM4800 REFUSED to work without it.  Best I can remember, the computer couldn't even "see" the firewire expansion card.  Granted, Tascam's drivers are usually terrible anyway.  The Focusrite interface that I use with my laptop worked better with the Legacy driver although it did technically work without it.

    -Donald

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