BigJGTR
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Saving music to a seperate drive?
What is the best way to save my music files. I have had some issues with Winblows7 failing, crashing, Viruses and all the other things that slow a PC down and make you have to format that C:\ drive. Whats the best file format to save files for individual songs. Like is Bundeling better then just .cwp? I just got a new Hard drive and I was wondering about saving my files to it insted of on the HDD as my operating system incase of crashes or HDD burnouts? Any info on this would be great!
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Anderton
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 01:02:55
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 01:05:17
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My suggestion..... label your new drive S:/ (for samples and sessions) and create a Cakewalk folder on it.
In Sonar open up the Preferences dialog box and in the Audio section point Sonar to S:/Cakewalk for saving all sessions to. Make sure you have selected to save all sessions in their individual folder also.
Use your S:/ drive to hold samples, and large VSTI libraries (like Kontakt and Garritan). Get a backup drive (USB) and backup your Cakewalk folder to it once in a while.
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 04:12:09
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The best strategy for Sonar is a 3 disc system (excluding backups) - Operating System & Programs
- Cakewalk Project files
- Sample libraries
As stated above, make sure you're using Per Project Folders and try to avoid saving as Bundles, which can be flaky at times.
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BigJGTR
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 09:03:08
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I should have been more specific with my version of Sonar. Those articals you linked Anderson are great but they explain doing things with earlyer versions of Sonar. Im looking for Sonar X1 I guess. Also is bundeling really that sketchy? Could I just back up my project folder making sure it has the audio and picture cache with it?
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 09:11:30
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Noithings different in SONAR X1 when it comes how projects are constructed and how many different pieces of data are saved and where they are located.
I don't use bundles. I kind of don't like that everything is in one file and I don'thave a way of repairing it if just one part goes wrong. If I need to send a big lot of data I use Winzip or Winrar to not only save but compress and concatenate all the files. Both those programs have error checking and repair functions available.
You don't need to save the Picture Cache files as they a recreated by SONAR when a project loads. They are just graphic files of the on screen wave form
You'd do well to follow Craig Anderton's advice.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 09:38:35
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A couple of things:
First, for maximum performance, you want to record/save project to a dedicated "Audio" HD (not the OS drive).
Install all applications/plugins to the OS (boot) HD.
The ultimate safety-net against any kind of problem is to create/maintain an up-to-date backup image file (of the C: HD) using Acronis True Image or similar.
-If the C: HD dies, you pop in a replacement... load the up-to-date backup image file... and you're right back in business.
-If the machine gets infected with a Virus/malware, reload the backup image file to cleanse the system.
-If an update/etc fouls up the machine, reload the backup image file to fix it.
Anti-Virus:
If you're sending/receiving Email... or doing general-purpose Internet surfing, you need A/V software on the DAW.
I'd recommend Microsoft Security Essentials. Works well, light-footprint, won't affect audio performance... and it's free
Once you've got the machine back in order, spend the $50 to get Acronis True Image (Home 2011)... and take the time to create/maintain an up-to-date backup image file.
Do this... and you'll never have to reload Win7 from scratch.
You'll always be able to get back (quickly) to a properly functioning machine.
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jbow
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 09:43:56
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This thread should be a sticky
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Mahlon
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 13:23:17
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Jim Roseberry
A couple of things:
First, for maximum performance, you want to record/save project to a dedicated "Audio" HD (not the OS drive).
Install all applications/plugins to the OS (boot) HD.
The ultimate safety-net against any kind of problem is to create/maintain an up-to-date backup image file (of the C: HD) using Acronis True Image or similar.
-If the C: HD dies, you pop in a replacement... load the up-to-date backup image file... and you're right back in business.
-If the machine gets infected with a Virus/malware, reload the backup image file to cleanse the system.
-If an update/etc fouls up the machine, reload the backup image file to fix it.
Anti-Virus:
If you're sending/receiving Email... or doing general-purpose Internet surfing, you need A/V software on the DAW.
I'd recommend Microsoft Security Essentials. Works well, light-footprint, won't affect audio performance... and it's free
Once you've got the machine back in order, spend the $50 to get Acronis True Image (Home 2011)... and take the time to create/maintain an up-to-date backup image file.
Do this... and you'll never have to reload Win7 from scratch.
You'll always be able to get back (quickly) to a properly functioning machine.
Hey Jim, can you tell me a couple of things about Acronis which I've never completely understood? When you schedule a backup in Acronis (say I back up the c: drive and in the same backup, my d: (programs/apps) and e: (data) drive), and that's all one backup file, is that itself a disc image? Or is there a separate process to make a disc image from which you can restore Windows should the c: drive fail completely? Fortunately, I've not had that kind of crash yet, and everything is backed up to a separate hard drive, although it is, like I said, in one backup file. As it is now, I suppose if there was a total c: drive failure, I'd stick the True Image Recovery disc in the dvd drive and point it to restore my backup file on the backup drive. And I'd have to have a new c: drive to tell it where to back up. Is this right? Thanks for any info. Mahlon
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Beagle
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 13:46:12
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I'm not Jim, but a disk image is a completely different process from file backup. a disk image creates a disk restore of the entire disk, a file backup that you have scheduled in acronis is backing up specific files on the drive(s) you have chosen for the backup.
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BigJGTR
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 13:50:41
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 Amazing... Thanks for the info Jim, my system does come with a backup image disk as well as software I just got from buying the new HDD to create and maintain a recent backup image. I took for granted that saving the backup image wouldnt save my sonar projects and audio files. I just made a backup image on my other HDD at 58.6Gig and I will update this regularly! Thanks again for everyones input and info on this! And this should be sticky, I know im not the only person that can bennifit from the info here!
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Saving music to a seperate drive?
2011/08/10 14:41:11
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Hey Jim, can you tell me a couple of things about Acronis which I've never completely understood? When you schedule a backup in Acronis (say I back up the c: drive and in the same backup, my d: (programs/apps) and e: (data) drive), and that's all one backup file, is that itself a disc image? Or is there a separate process to make a disc image from which you can restore Windows should the c: drive fail completely? Fortunately, I've not had that kind of crash yet, and everything is backed up to a separate hard drive, although it is, like I said, in one backup file. As it is now, I suppose if there was a total c: drive failure, I'd stick the True Image Recovery disc in the dvd drive and point it to restore my backup file on the backup drive. And I'd have to have a new c: drive to tell it where to back up. Is this right? Thanks for any info.
Hi Mahlon, Beagle covered it...  I prefer to not even have True Image installed. If you go to the Tools Menu, create a Bootable Rescue CD. (If you bought a retail/box copy, the install CD is also a Bootable Rescue CD) You can boot the DAW (or any machine) from this Bootable Rescue CD... and create/restore any backup image file. This is a super clean/lean way to approach backup/restore. (No scheduling services running in the background) Generally speaking, you want to use True Image to backup your C: (boot) HD. Backup the disk as a whole (including MBR). It's not necessary to create backup image files of your audio files/projects. Just go into Windows Explorer... and drag/drop to another HD (or burn to optical disc - depending on the size).
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