The Broken

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2011/08/10 10:07:56 (permalink)

The Broken

I just finished a song for a client.   My ears are toast and I could use a fresh
pair but I have a deadline.   Would love to get any feedback, suggestions and reactions before I submit it to him.  

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Thanks in advance,
Steve
post edited by opensky - 2011/08/15 09:15:16

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/10 12:01:55 (permalink)
    no advice, I liked it

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/10 14:46:31 (permalink)
    Thanks Shawn!

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/10 21:38:38 (permalink)
    Steve,

    Outstanding production.  Evocative music to get the Gospel into ears that wouldn't normally hear it.  that break at 3:15 is super sweet.  Lot's of interesting places along the way through this soul lament and confession.



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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/11 08:10:45 (permalink)
    opensky,

    Great stuff!  I really love the vocal work here especially right when they get introduced.  You nailed that.

    I think the thick guitar they have is a bit ear fatiguing and would suggest to trim a bit of the upper mids.  If you do that, you might also see that the crashes will start to feel a bit too big as well and they may need cut in a similar way.  This will probably help the bass guitar in those spots as well as it competes for some notice in those areas.

    Just suggestions for a very well done mix all-in-all.

    Thanks for sharing,
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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/11 08:47:04 (permalink)
    Sounds really good.  A couple of things that stuck out for me:  At 1:27 the vocals seem too dry and upfront - like they stick out.  Maybe a little verb or delay to wet them down slightly.  The kick seems a little lost.  It's almost too low in volume.  Cool song.
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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/11 09:47:42 (permalink)
    I would record another track of the rhythym guitar and use it with the existing one and pan them left and right instead of using the delay.   Agree with the comments about the vocals. 

    Otherwise great song!  It sounds a bit like Something Like Silas

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/11 20:59:25 (permalink)
    Very cool tune. Some parts remind me of early Tool. Few small nits. Vocals sound a tad too quiet in the verses and a tad too loud in the heavy parts. I get the dynamic feel you're going for but it's a little drastic on my setup. I agree about the kick, kinda lost, maybe more beater head slap, a little more definition in the bass/kick relationship. The full on loud areas seem pretty dang squashed, might be the cause of the 'guitar fatigue' someone mentioned. that's subjective though, some people love that sound. Mix feels really close to me though.

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/11 21:14:48 (permalink)
    Hi Steve,

    Great song. I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been mentioned, though.

    Vocals, kick...you know

    Overall it sounds great from here.



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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 00:00:35 (permalink)
    No How


    Steve,

    Outstanding production.  Evocative music to get the Gospel into ears that wouldn't normally hear it.  that break at 3:15 is super sweet.  Lot's of interesting places along the way through this soul lament and confession.


    Thanks No How.   Good to hear from you again.  

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 00:34:43 (permalink)
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    opensky,

    Great stuff!  I really love the vocal work here especially right when they get introduced.  You nailed that.

    I think the thick guitar they have is a bit ear fatiguing and would suggest to trim a bit of the upper mids.  If you do that, you might also see that the crashes will start to feel a bit too big as well and they may need cut in a similar way.  This will probably help the bass guitar in those spots as well as it competes for some notice in those areas.

    Just suggestions for a very well done mix all-in-all.

    Thanks for sharing,
    Tom


    Thanks for your insights Tom!   I think I will tweak the
    guitar eq again.

    steve



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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 09:59:04 (permalink)
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    I would record another track of the rhythym guitar and use it with the existing one and pan them left and right instead of using the delay.   Agree with the comments about the vocals. 

    Otherwise great song!  It sounds a bit like Something Like Silas


    Thank you Vicente for your suggestion.

    Steve

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 10:34:10 (permalink)
    Maxprizm

     Vocals sound a tad too quiet in the verses and a tad too loud in the heavy parts. I get the dynamic feel you're going for but it's a little drastic on my setup. 

    +1 on this. The trick with the vocal is getting that distant sound without having to strain the old ears.

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 14:35:20 (permalink)
    Maxprizm


    Very cool tune. Some parts remind me of early Tool. Few small nits. Vocals sound a tad too quiet in the verses and a tad too loud in the heavy parts. I get the dynamic feel you're going for but it's a little drastic on my setup. I agree about the kick, kinda lost, maybe more beater head slap, a little more definition in the bass/kick relationship. The full on loud areas seem pretty dang squashed, might be the cause of the 'guitar fatigue' someone mentioned. that's subjective though, some people love that sound. Mix feels really close to me though.


    Thanks Ed for the compliments and suggestions.   As you mentioned,
    the loud guitar is subjective and my client absolutely wants that tone
    and being upfront.   Since he's footin' the bill I just try to work around
    it.

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 15:56:07 (permalink)
    Good tune, and mostly quite well done.  The track mix felt a little hot in the louder passages, and (as Ed mentioned) the vocal transition from soft to loud could have been smoother and less of a 'jolt.'  Now, that's just my take, but you're right: you gotta' give the guy what he wants.  Overall it's a good production, and could go as is.
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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 17:03:51 (permalink)
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    Hi Steve,

    Great song. I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been mentioned, though.

    Vocals, kick...you know

    Overall it sounds great from here.


    Thanks for the compliment!   I appreciate your feedback
    post edited by opensky - 2011/08/13 01:50:42

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/12 18:18:44 (permalink)
    Since others have mentioned, I'd have to say I agree about the difference in volume on the vocals on verse and choruses.  But overall, this is a great track! 
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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/14 00:16:21 (permalink)
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    Maxprizm

    Vocals sound a tad too quiet in the verses and a tad too loud in the heavy parts. I get the dynamic feel you're going for but it's a little drastic on my setup. 

    +1 on this. The trick with the vocal is getting that distant sound without having to strain the old ears.


    Thanks for the listen.   I just put up a remix if you have a chance.

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/14 17:15:27 (permalink)
    Thanks philz and janet for your feedback!

    I just put up a remix of the tune.   Please check it out if
    you have a chance.   Btw, the client went gaga over it!
    So I'm happy.

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/14 18:25:45 (permalink)
    Couldn't get there with your link :-( I got;

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/15 09:16:40 (permalink)
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    My apologies.   Try this:
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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/15 10:32:26 (permalink)
     Great job!
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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/17 16:18:19 (permalink)
    Steve, at first I thought the vocal during the heavy bits was too quiet, but really it just sits back in the mix with the guitars, it's still clear and easy to understand. As far as the quiet vocal part, it sounds like it should be that way. But the mix itself is pristine, superlative. I might agree about the kick even after the remix. Great job.

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    Re:The Broken 2011/08/17 18:07:21 (permalink)
    No negs here.  As is this sits extremely well to my ears.

    OTOH:
    Macro-dynamics may be exagerrated (too wide) (rests and incremental pomp)  and micro-dynamics (ultra-compression of tracks) a bit narrow for some listeners.  Your client may need to advise on that though ... how much contrast preceding the metal cries, etc.

    MHG has excellent dyanamic balances with his metal ballads, his advise might be solicited, IMHO ... since most of us aren't able to advise on so excellent a piece as this.

    Awesome song and mixing my friend!  I see you thoroughly delight in producing haughty extremes of dynamics!

    Note: I just looked above and see Philz, Yoyo, and others have validated my crony ponderings, but they are rock wizards ... not metal meisters.

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