bapu
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Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
Why......why .......why...........Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!
(throws hand in the air and runs while screaming)
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 14:25:31
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Rock can't be killed with conventional weapons.
Long Live Rock! Be it dead or alive...
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 14:30:37
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Rock ended up in an embarrassingly hair metal self-induced coma via autoeroticism asphyxiation during the mid to late 80’s only to be (thankfully) revived by the 90’s Seattle / alternative scene.
… can’t relate to rap or hip-hop so it’s not for me to pass judgment … but, the one thing I really don’t understand is why Grandmaster Flash, Blondie and Run-D.M.C. are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (I don’t have anything against these artists) but Rush, ELP and Yes are not???? (went there for the 1st time a couple of weeks ago)
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 14:56:06
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PUBA
Why are you classifying Rap as music?
QE is right in a way. In my mind 3 things killed Rock.
3) Aything by Journey. That was the death of album oriented rock and the birth of corporate rock
2) the transition of Genesis from a cool prog rock band to a horrible disco act that was on every station every day with stuff like Su Su Sudio
1) We Built This City on Rock and Roll. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh is not bad enough. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 14:56:56
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I wondered the same thing, Q. At first, I thought it was due to political conflicts or input from Label Executives. I finally came to realize, though, that it's because the petty tyrants at the Hall of Fame can't follow odd time signatures. When they try to dance to it, they look stupid(er). As we all know, that is the single most important element in determining whether or not music is good.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 15:04:24
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Rap is dead. What's left is spoken word over a drum loop.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 15:18:58
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Mesh
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 15:45:25
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Very good point Q....things like this really makes you go hmmmm...
Who are these tyrants that make these executive decisions?
What's the necessary criteria to get into the Hall of Fame?
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 15:49:01
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As long as Am is alive, rock will never truly be dead...
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 16:30:35
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No, no... Rock is still alive and well, it just changed its name to keep up with the times. It's now called "Rawk!"
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 17:52:38
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 18:04:08
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Rock is a t-shirt?
Makes sense.
Rap is a pair of saggy pants.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 19:21:54
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space_cowboy
PUBA
Why are you classifying Rap as music?
QE is right in a way. In my mind 3 things killed Rock.
3) Aything by Journey. That was the death of album oriented rock and the birth of corporate rock
2) the transition of Genesis from a cool prog rock band to a horrible disco act that was on every station every day with stuff like Su Su Sudio
1) We Built This City on Rock and Roll. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh is not bad enough. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
This is the highest truth.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 20:33:15
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space_cowboy
PUBA
Why are you classifying Rap as music?
QE is right in a way. In my mind 3 things killed Rock.
3) Aything by Journey. That was the death of album oriented rock and the birth of corporate rock
2) the transition of Genesis from a cool prog rock band to a horrible disco act that was on every station every day with stuff like Su Su Sudio
1) We Built This City on Rock and Roll. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh is not bad enough. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
My opinions (just so no one gets personally offended  ). On Space Cowboy's observations: I have nothing good to say about Rap so I won't say anything about it. (or did I?) 3) I never considered Journey "Rock" so I simply enjoyed them as another genre 2) I liked early Genesis and later Genesis, but treated them as two different bands and, for the record, they never recorded Sussudio, that was a Phil Collins solo production 1) Even prior members of what used to be Jefferson Airplane and, later, Jefferson Starship get sick when they hear that song (done by the final encarnation "Starship") As for me personally, I tend to bounce between many moods musically some of which make even me choke when I think about them while I'm in a different mood! (I'm a simple person who has complicated moments.  ) I know lots of people (and, I believe, there are several in this forum) who are quite happy sticking with one, fairly well defined, genre of music. In one sense I'm sure it's a HELL of a lot cheaper, but I would get tired of it pretty quick (sucks being ADHD sometimes!). What I'm leading up to is the BIG question that gets asked a lot: What, exactly, constitutes "Rock" (or any other genre) anyway? Well, I'm neither looking for answers nor am I going to try and promote my opinion of what it is. Instead, I sat down a few years back with a list of all my songs at that time and tried to figure out what genre and grouping "I" considered each song and/or artist to be in. After several refinements and regroupings, I ended up with a relatively small number of basic genres with groupings within each. The criteria for the groupings within a genre was anything but technical, I simply answered the question "Which songs from this genre sound good together?" Works for me anyway.
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Russell.Whaley
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 21:05:47
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My "genre," if you will, is pretty well expressed by the Sirius-XM channel "Classic Rewind." Beyond that, I try to avoid specifics - just turn up the volume when something I like is played!
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/18 23:08:21
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If our local "Modern Rock" station is any indication, rock may not be dead, but its wishing it was.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 00:25:02
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but I like Journey
in the 80's
I like the 80's
I was a teen
ya
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Rock is Dead (according to Who?) but CRAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 02:15:32
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Mooch4056
but I like Journey
in the 80's
I like the 80's
I was a teen
ya
As Paul Gilbert said "You can take the man out of the 80's, but you can't take the 80's out of the man!" (As Bapu said "I Want To Hold Your Hand")
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 09:12:44
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craigb
space_cowboy
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Why are you classifying Rap as music?
QE is right in a way. In my mind 3 things killed Rock.
3) Aything by Journey. That was the death of album oriented rock and the birth of corporate rock
2) the transition of Genesis from a cool prog rock band to a horrible disco act that was on every station every day with stuff like Su Su Sudio
1) We Built This City on Rock and Roll. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh is not bad enough. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
My opinions (just so no one gets personally offended ).
On Space Cowboy's observations:
I have nothing good to say about Rap so I won't say anything about it. (or did I?)
3) I never considered Journey "Rock" so I simply enjoyed them as another genre
2) I liked early Genesis and later Genesis, but treated them as two different bands and, for the record, they never recorded Sussudio, that was a Phil Collins solo production
1) Even prior members of what used to be Jefferson Airplane and, later, Jefferson Starship get sick when they hear that song (done by the final encarnation "Starship")
As for me personally, I tend to bounce between many moods musically some of which make even me choke when I think about them while I'm in a different mood! (I'm a simple person who has complicated moments. )
Works for me anyway.
agree 100%!!! and I also agree - you can't take the '80's out of me either. that was "my era" of coming into my own. as evidenced by the picture I posted a week or so ago with the curly hair, open flannel shirt and cheesy mustache (well, I still have a cheesy mustache, but it's a least more mature!  )
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Beagle
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 10:03:22
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DANG IT!! You've got that STUPID SONG RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD!!! ("We Built This City")
ARRRGGGHHH!!!!
GET THEE OUT THOU FOUL DEMON!!!!
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 10:38:59
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Be very careful. Some would tell you to play "Jane" to drive that out of your head, but that can backfire on you. You've got to treat this situation with extreme caution. Whatever happens, whatever else you hear, whatever else may run rabid through your feverish brain, do not think about the Jefferson Starship performance on the Star Wars Holiday Special. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_Wars_Holiday_Special I hope that helps.
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 10:50:51
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Thanks Bubba. Good thing you reminded me not to think about the Star Wars Holiday Special as that was the next thought coming in and I almost thought about it, but didn't....
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 10:53:43
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Oh, man! What a close call! thanks Bubba! you have come through for us all once again!
I, for one, will be glad to testify at your competency hearing....
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 11:02:44
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I was hoping to reschedule it since I have a scheduling conflict. It's the same day as Life Day. Uh oh...
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craigb
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 13:22:30
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Mesh
Good thing you reminded me not to think about the Star Wars Holiday Special ...
I'm sure it's not like it used to be before Political Correctness and tolerance for alternative lifestyles came around... 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 13:33:44
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"You do not know the power of the pastel side."
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bayoubill
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 13:37:56
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craigb
Mesh
Good thing you reminded me not to think about the Star Wars Holiday Special ...
I'm sure it's not like it used to be before Political Correctness and tolerance for alternative lifestyles came around...
THAT IS JUST WRONG
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re:Rock is Dead (according to The Who) but RAP is still Alive!
2011/08/19 13:41:37
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The Hello Kitty part is what you find objectionable, right?
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