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2011/08/19 06:54:57 (permalink)

I'm back!

New install from the OS all the way through, on a new HDD, all the latest drivers etc, all cloned and backed up. X1B is running smoothly except my Cakewalk Tuner is missng... and DSF Symphonic Orchestra wont install...
 
Now, shall I attempt X1C again? Do I feel like another system crash.... ?
 
Or shall I lurk and see what others say...
 
Choices choices...

Ludwig Bouwer, One Big Room Studios.
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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 06:59:51 (permalink)
    I hope you've burnt a disc image at strategic points along your journey.

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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 07:00:37 (permalink)


    For ME, X1C is about as stable as 8.5.3 was.

    I only have one issue, and that's trying to open up old projects in X1C.

    CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughout
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    LJB
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 07:07:03 (permalink)
    Brother, I have burnt images of my journey both on an HDD and in my damaged and fatigued mind... :O) A very expensive lesson learnt. What I did learn though is that there is NOTHING wrong with either my hardware, my RME drivers Soundforge or Protools 9. Now for X1C, which is where the trouble started....

    Hold thumbs :O)

    Ludwig Bouwer, One Big Room Studios.
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    Jonbouy
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 07:29:18 (permalink)
    WB!

    "We can't do anything to change the world until capitalism crumbles.
    In the meantime we should all go shopping to console ourselves" - Banksy
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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 07:47:39 (permalink)
    Great News.

    Welcome back Ludwig!

    best,
    mike


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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 08:15:46 (permalink)
    Fingers are crossed!  Let us know how things go with the X1C upgrade (again).

    Tom

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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 09:09:20 (permalink)
    Welcome back! Now that you have saved drive images, you can experiment with your system to your heart's content. 


    Scott

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    Skyline_UK
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 09:18:51 (permalink)
    Go for it.  You've got to find out sooner or later if you're staying with Sonar, and waiting to see others' experiences won't help, because if there's one thing that screams out to me from many of the posts here in the last few weeks is that a lot of frustrations and 'Sonar is the culprit'/'no it isn't' exchanges are most likely due to the countless variables that exist with DAWS/interfaces/plugins, etc.  Yes, there are supposed to be common industry standards, etc. but it doesn't seem to me like that's always the case; complexity has confounded the market, and that leaves us users (and Cakewalk, the butt of occasional fury) chasing phantoms all too frequently.

    I'm glad you got things back on stream again and it's entirely understandable that you don't ever want to go through that nightmare again, but if you've got everything double-triple backed up then there's negligible risk.

    John

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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 09:21:27 (permalink)
    +Loads

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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 10:36:23 (permalink)
    Do it. You could have installed X1c right after you in Stalled X1. :)


    "It's not a song till it touches your heart. It's not a song till it tears you apart!" Lyrics of Amy Grant.

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    ba_midi
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 10:39:00 (permalink)
    SHeesh - reading this thread seems like X1 is such high maintenance

    Billy Arnell (ba-midi)

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    LJB
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 11:10:24 (permalink)
    Hi Billy,  just to give you the full picture, I'm one of the biggest Sonar fans on this forum, and probably one of the longest users (Cakewalk 3.4 circa 1992). Normally I come out and defend CW like crazy. But when a highly anticipated update kills your system dead, it is not without some upset. The high maintenance is in the fact that I did not have a cloned C Drive to save my butt, but the fact that Sonar has cost me two major jobs in the last year is also not going to be ignored anymore. I am all for getting the tools that stay the sharpest, so I am finally relinquishing my loyalty to any DAW in favour of loyalty for my own survival. If there are bodies at the end, so be it :O)

    Ludwig Bouwer, One Big Room Studios.
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    with all the trimmings / Win 10Pro 64 / Intel i7-7700 / Asus Prime Z270k / 16GB DDR4 / RME HDSP9652 / RME UFX / Black Lion Audio ADA8000 / ART MPA & ART Pro Channel / Focusrite Voicemaster Pro / Aphex 107

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    bigboi
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 11:47:34 (permalink)
    LJB...I agree.  I have been with Sonar forever (check out my join date).  Some of you may remember X1 crashing on me with a well known R&B producer/songwriter sitting next to me in the studio (2 times to be exact).  He then asked me the dreaded question....."Why don't you have a mac?"

    I then stopped the blind loyalty deal, and went out and bought Studio One Pro.  What a dream man.  REALLY.  It is definitely missing some of the bells and whistles, but it just works.  And works well.  As you can see, I am still on the boards daily, and have already installed X1c.  I am currently having sync problems with X1c and Maschine, so again...I am doing my paid work in Studio One.  I am slower in Studio One because I don't know it like the back of my hand, but I am getting there.

    In short, anyone questioning your loyalty for considering jumping ship is probably someone that is playing around in their bedroom or garage....and please don't take offense if this is you....I was there once too.  However, if you are being paid by the hour (as I do at my studio in Atlanta), you simply can't have crashes.  And after 1 year, Sonar is still to buggy to be trusted in my studio with major clients.  I will admit that when I have a smaller client in, I sometimes try to sneak X1 in to see how it fairs.  It works fine about 75% of the time.

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    ba_midi
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 11:47:39 (permalink)
    LJB


    Hi Billy,  just to give you the full picture, I'm one of the biggest Sonar fans on this forum, and probably one of the longest users (Cakewalk 3.4 circa 1992). Normally I come out and defend CW like crazy. But when a highly anticipated update kills your system dead, it is not without some upset. The high maintenance is in the fact that I did not have a cloned C Drive to save my butt, but the fact that Sonar has cost me two major jobs in the last year is also not going to be ignored anymore. I am all for getting the tools that stay the sharpest, so I am finally relinquishing my loyalty to any DAW in favour of loyalty for my own survival. If there are bodies at the end, so be it :O)

    Oh I COMPLETELY understand.  I was a huge Sonar/CW fan as well until X1.   And, like you I've given up "loyalty" to any one DAW or company.   That was somewhat foolish anyway.   Companies are rarely loyal to users.

    I've had my own struggles with X1 as you may know, so I certainly understand your feelings and frustrations.   But I do think this version of Sonar (X1) is intensely sensitive and seems to not be comfortable in some environments - unlike its competitors.  I don't know why, but the extremely wide variance of users with and without problems is somewhat revealing.

    And I fully support the concept of remaining loyal to YOUR needs.   All this fanboy stuff that goes on really is somewhat adolescent;  sometimes even scary.    It's one thing to show support for a product/company but it's another thing to turn things into verbal wars and such, which tends to go on a lot on this forum.

    As for X1 - you may have seen that I'm about to experiment on one of my new laptops with a fresh Windows 7 install and a brand new m-audio fast track pro audio device.   I didn't want to take anything from my main system so I'm doing everything completely "fresh" and unaltered to see how X1 works in that regard.

    I do suspect it will do well.  Since it does seem to be a high maintenance / drama queen DAW, I think when it has its own "this is for you X1" environment, it will be happier if not fully happy


    Billy Arnell (ba-midi)

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    Counting Coup
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    Re:I'm back! 2011/08/19 13:14:25 (permalink)
    Bigboi. Similar experiences. Been here since DOS, found X1b to be unstable, half-baked and a business liability. Tried S1 loved it for its stability but returned to Sonar 8.3.1 soon after when I found S1's short-commings with the "inserting" of data and a few other things. Just finished a 3 month-long job in 8.3 without a single crash or irritation. I'll stay put till I've proven the stability of X1c. BTW, has the random on-off switching of ProChannel been sorted? I had that from day one. CC
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