Snap to "Magnetism"...If you use it please say so...and why???

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2011/08/19 12:24:39 (permalink)

Snap to "Magnetism"...If you use it please say so...and why???

Just curious.  Would like to see how many folks use it and why they do as I have never found a use for it...liked it...or used it.  I'm sure there are great things you can do with it...but what???
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 12:27:03 (permalink)
    Turn it on and then wonder why your snap to doesn't work properly.

    er.........

    that's all I can think of.
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 12:35:09 (permalink)
    I've never got along with it, no. I imagine the purpose is to provide something equivalent to quantising with less the 100% quantise strength, but I find its behaviour entirely unfathomable. I suspect it's a good idea in need of a less confusing implementation.
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 12:53:36 (permalink)
     LOL FastBikerBoy...

    And more serious... I think the purpose is to give you more freedom to choose between free placing and snapped placing.

    With a low magnetic strength, you can freely place the note at any place (so you can "off-set" the starting point of the note by dragging - giving creative effects). If you want the note to snap to an exact setting however, all you have to do is dragging the note closer to a grid point. The magnetic strength determine how much freedom you will allow yourself.

    But - that's only my interpretation. I could be totally wrong here... 
    post edited by JClosed - 2011/08/19 13:02:20
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 12:57:48 (permalink)
    Short off topic... What the hell is wrong with the forum software! All my carriage-returns are removed when I am using Firefox! I can not longer format the text, unless I switch to Opera! Well - log out, start Opera and log in I guess...
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 12:59:24 (permalink)
    Well, since you can have grid lines of your choice of resolution in the PRV...if you had no magnetism at all and snap to turned off you would have all the freedom in the world to place your note anywhere you wanted it...no matter how "out of time"...OR...by visually using the grid lines just line it up exactly in time.  Or, like I tend to use it, turn snap to on and easily snap to the resolution of your choice.  What, on gawds green earth, was magnetism supposed to enhance, make better or improve?  This one has long baffled me.  If no one really uses it...why even have it physically and mentally cluttering the program??  I stand ready to be hipped.

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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 13:01:36 (permalink)
    Guess the purpose is you not longer have to switch snap on and off, but that's only guessing...

    By the way - confirmed... cannot format my text in Firefox. It only works with Opera... not nice!!!
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 13:23:47 (permalink)
    I, for one, can't see NOT using it. Everything would be out of time in the PRV if magnetism wasn't turned on
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 13:41:01 (permalink)
    No, I'm sorry Eternal, ol pal.  That's not the way it works at all.  If you want your entered notes to be "exactly" in time you turn magnetism OFF.  Then your notes will snap exactly to the desired resolution and will not be placed anywhere but the desired resolution.  Magnetism only draws the notes TOWARDS the desired resolution but lets you place them NOT ON the desired resolution if you want.  With magnetism OFF and snap ON.  You can't place them "off the grid".  HTH.

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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 13:55:11 (permalink)
    Guess the purpose is you not longer have to switch snap on and off, but that's only guessing...



    I think that's exactly the purpose. For instance if you have snap set to 1/4, and you want to drag an 8th note or maybe adjust a grace note without having it snap to the 1/4 grid, you can do it without having to disable snap or change the snap resolution.




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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 14:02:59 (permalink)
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    Short off topic... What the hell is wrong with the forum software! All my carriage-returns are removed when I am using Firefox! I can not longer format the text, unless I switch to Opera! Well - log out, start Opera and log in I guess...

    There's already a thread or two here confirming this:  Firefox 6 kills the forum navigation functions.  The fix is to either roll back to Firefox 5 or go to another browser.  (I went back to FF5 with no problems). 
     

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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 14:28:54 (permalink)
    But don't most folks have their PRV snap set to 16ths?  That way you can enter most Whole,Half, Quarter, Eighth resolutions without changing snap resolution and only changing it if you a] need finer (i.e. 32nd, 64th) resolution or b] triplets.  That's how I've always done it.  I really find I need only two states.  Snap ON and Snap OFF.  The magnetic thing only frustrates me.  But at least there's one valid (sort of) reason for magnetism.  Are there more??

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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 14:37:14 (permalink)
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    Guess the purpose is you not longer have to switch snap on and off, but that's only guessing...
    I think that's exactly the purpose. For instance if you have snap set to 1/4, and you want to drag an 8th note or maybe adjust a grace note without having it snap to the 1/4 grid, you can do it without having to disable snap or change the snap resolution.
    Yes, confirmed. That is the exact purpose for the Magnetism feature.



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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 14:50:52 (permalink)
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    I, for one, can't see NOT using it. Everything would be out of time in the PRV if magnetism wasn't turned on


    See my post at number 2 in this thread. I rest my case m'laud......
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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 15:55:51 (permalink)
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    Short off topic... What the hell is wrong with the forum software! All my carriage-returns are removed when I am using Firefox! I can not longer format the text, unless I switch to Opera! Well - log out, start Opera and log in I guess...


    If you upgraded to FF 6, that's probably the problem.  Downgrade to 5.0.

    We have another thread just about this.


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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 21:25:04 (permalink)
    Ahem.....If I may steer this thread back to the original topic:-)

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    Re:Snap to "Magnetism"...Do you use it? For what? 2011/08/19 21:29:52 (permalink)
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    Guess the purpose is you not longer have to switch snap on and off, but that's only guessing...



    I think that's exactly the purpose. For instance if you have snap set to 1/4, and you want to drag an 8th note or maybe adjust a grace note without having it snap to the 1/4 grid, you can do it without having to disable snap or change the snap resolution.


    Exactly.... and I've used that often...

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