Turning Stylus RMX into midi/audio clips?

Well I've tried everything I can think of and I can't figure out how to make Track view audio clips out of the 8 layers I've constructed in Stylus (so I can use them in the Matrix). Do any of you have this app and know what I'm talking about? I also wish I knew how to trigger Stylus from the Sonar play button instead of having to time it from the Stylus play button...but I can't. Any insight would be much appreciated.

That didn't do it, but I figured it out. It takes a little extra work, and there are a few extra steps, and I just got done with it, so I will post the exact instructions in a few minutes...break time now. But hey - this is GOOD!

You are talking about a regular soft synth, or a track that has a midi clip already in it. Yes, that would be sufficient to bounce the tracks to audio...but if you have built your drum layers within Stylus itself, I found that none of the above advice works - because there is no midi data in Sonar to begin with. So let's say you have Stylus, with 8 groves in its mixer, and blank Stylus audio and midi tracks in Sonar. How do you get an audio file from that? Well, first, you have to get those 8 groves out of Stylus and into Sonar, one by one. And THAT is where the fun starts... This is so convoluted I know you must be thinking there is something wrong with me...but start with your Stylus loaded with 8 grooves and just a simply instrument track in Sonar: First: System Specs on this machine: WinXP SP3 - AMD Opteron 180 - Sonar X1c (I have yet to try this on my second computer with Win7 64 bit Core i7 Sonar X1c and it could be that these steps I am about to list are needed only for my old machine - and I can confirm that compared to my new computer the old one is buggy as hell.) Now, here is how I got those 8 "grooves" into Sonar: 1. Make sure you are on the Stylus browser pane. Click on the button for track 1. Open the Step Sequencer. Drag the file in the Drag and Drop window in Stylus onto the Step Sequencer, not into track pane in Sonar. The clip will appear in a new Sonar Track. Close the Step Sequencer. 2. Do this for each of the 8 (or less) tracks in Stylus which contains a groove. 3. Make the appropriate output settings in each track for Stylus tracks 1-8. 4. Leave all Stylus tracks in the Mixer pane on Output A. Do not use B-H. You may find that as you go from Stylus tracks 2-8 that dragging the files from the drag and drop in Stylus without using the Step Sequencer creates extra empty tracks equal to the number of the Stylus track itself - for instance dragging the file that is in Track 8 will create 8 new tracks in Sonar, not just one. One with the file, and 7 that are empty. Using the Step Sequencer eliminates that problem. Once the tracks were all in Sonar, it was a snap to change then all into midi groove clips. But I noticed that none of the clips was a Step Sequencer clip. Even though I had inserted them all using it. But looking at the midi events themselves in each clip, it is clear that these are not normal midi events, but are special to Stylus. So the Step Sequencer would be useless anyway for any kind of midi event editing, as would be the piano roll. So Stylus really is it's own kind of animal, and this is why this thread may be necessary for the next poor chap who comes along...good luck to us all.

Hi, Relpomiraculous - Thanks for the big post on Stylus.  I got curious and went to their site to check it out.  Highly spiffin' unit, that is. 

And now that I've read your new post, I'm not sure why you're doing this complicated routine you've described --You're not trying to edit the MIDI data from Stylus, you're just trying to get audio from Stylus into Sonar, isn't that right?

Like any multi-timbral synth/sampler/loop machine, Stylus has separate audio outputs.  After watching the introductory video tutorial covering Stylus basics, I watched this one showing the mixer in Stylus being used in combination with the mixer in Pro Tools.  You usually want to bring a synth's separate audio outs into Sonar so you can work with Sonar's plugins, and to do your final mixing.

Here's that tute in case you haven't seen it:

http://www.spectrasonics....=3&VideoTypeID=all

That's the way the program was designed - Isn't that accomplishing what you want?--

Randy B.

Those are both great tips, and I never would have thought of either...I was stuck thinking Stylus was a midi instrument instead of an audio one. Thanks so much guys.

Wow - it is so much easier just "inserting" Stylus at the outset with all outputs enabled instead of just a simple instrument track, and *then* assigning Stylus audio outs A in the mixer to A-H. That was my big mistake - inserting as a simple instrument track - instead of creating at the outset all 8 outputs plus one midi track like in the video. The drag and drop thing even in my new machine creates extra empty tracks no matter what I do, and I wonder why this is happening - but I think your way is so much better - forget drag and drop, eliminate the midi files altogether and get right to the audio. Then Matrix is ready to go. Thanks so much guys. I'm getting better at it each day...

rbowser


Relpo - I was very impressed with the Stylus website.  There are Many tutorial videos there, good to check them out.  Have fun!

Randy B.

And, they are FREE. AND,,,,,,,They are downloadable...........
They want to sell their software and HELP their users, Unlike some other companies. 

  My basic blank Sonar template has RMX already loaded. Each of the 8 RMX channels has its own audio track in Sonar. (and midi track too). To convert RMX midi to audio, just freeze the track you need. The only limit RMX has (imho) is its small number of channels, only 8. But by freezing tracks in Sonar, and deleting the redundant midi, you free up precious RMX channels. Because the process of freezing is relatively quick, this is not a time-consuming chore - it only takes two mouse-clicks to freeze a track. I converted all my Beatscape loops into rex files, which I imported in RMX, so I could work with 12 or 20 percussion tracks. RMX rocks, and I wish Cakewalk would follow the Spectrasonics example by making all the Sonar training videos free. Shall we start a campaign? :)