MIDI Inputs - How do you change the order they're listed?

John,
 
You should be able to select the port, and click on "Move selected devices to top" or something like that.  I beg your pardon if this has changed in X1, I only have one midi port available so I don't move it much!
 
Brian

jbraner


Hi Brian, That works for outputs (right under the inputs) but for some reason has never worked for inputs...

My bad - I read midi devices and moving and didn't catch it was inputs you were trying to move!
 
Inputs are a different story.  Have you tried disconnecting, restarting Sonar, exit, reconnect, and re-start?
You may have to check your device settings but it may clear out your inputs.
 
Brian

 

Have you tried disconnecting, restarting Sonar, exit, reconnect, and re-start?

Good call Brian - that worked today! It would be better to work out how these things are enumerated - but you can't have everything.

since MIDI inputs for newly inserted tracks either default to Omni or None

brundlefly - Mine don't, they default to the first "selected" MIDI input. ie all MIDI tracks that have been created with a MIDI input that was at the top of the list, always keep the port at the top of the list as their input - even when the "order" of the list changes. The relationship seems to be (in my case) the "first", "second" or "third" in the list rather than the actual MIDI port that these represent. Normally my MIDI input ports are: port1 port2 port4 on my MOTU 8 port MIDI device (the other MIDI inputs are unused, so deselected in SONAR) When SONAR changes the listing of MIDI inputs to: port4 port1 port2 (which it did last week) Then all the MIDI tracks that had "port1" as their input - now have "port 4" as their input. I hope this description makes sense. It doesn't make sense why it behaves like this, and the workaround is a little strange (just disconnect/reconnect things and restart SONAR until it enumerates your ports correctly) - but as long as we understand how things work, we can (eventually) fix things. The whole thing started when I accidently started SONAR with my USB MIDI ports switched off. Thanks for the help/advice though... PS - I also wish it was easier to format these posts better ;-)

daveny5

jbraner


Hi Brian, That works for outputs (right under the inputs) but for some reason has never worked for inputs...

That's because its not necessary for inputs. Sonar receives input on all devices regardless of the order.

That's not always the case. If an input is set to All Inputs, it will record form all inputs, but if you want to restrict it to a single input, you can. Th only time this is really necessary is if you are going to be recording simultaneously from more than one controller to more than one track, and need to keep the data streams separate, but I think that's a fairly rare situation for most of us.

The point I was trying to make was that the order of MIDI input devices in Options-MIDI Devices doesn't matter and it can't be changed anyway. 

I agree it doesn't really matter for new projects. I don't quite understand what the OP is saying about inputs defaulting to a particular port, but I have experienced the problem of haaving SONAR re-order ports, and foul-up the associations. It happened to me when I installed X1, but I think it was Outputs, and easily fixed,


In any case I do think something should be done to give better user control over input port enumeration, and what the defaults are when you insert a new track or open an old project (or a collaboration project) from a different environment.