Confused Newbie - Is Sonar overcompensating for latency?

Hello,
 
I've been recording some keyboard parts in a project to midi, and then, when I've done whatever editing is needed to sort out my dodgy playing, I use the midi track to trigger my hardware synth and record the audio.

I've just noticed that the audio track is out of sync with the rest of the project, but strangely playing slightly ahead of the beat. To see how bad it is, I've muted everything except the midi track and the recorded audio, and there's a definite slapback echo effect between the two. Turning on the metronome, the midi triggered audio is nicely in time, but the recorded version is definitely ahead of the beat.
 
I presume Sonar is in some way compensating for latency when recording, but is overdoing it. Can someone tell me how / where I can change settings to correct this?
 
My setup is in my signature, using X1, not 8.5.
 
Thanks,
 
Piers.

StarTekh

tell me about your setup..asio>?

Hello again,

When I said newbie, I meant it -  I had to go and google ASIO to find out what it stands for!
 
In answer to what I'm guessing is your question - I looked at Driver Mode in the Playback & Recording section of preferences, and it says I'm using WDM/KS. I tried changing it to ASIO to see what happened, and a message popped up saying that my USB Audio device (The Yamaha MW12cx) was no longer available.

I'm guessing this means it either isn't an ASIO device, or I don't have the driver installed...?
 
As for the problem, I'm afraid it's being a bit random.
 
As an experiment I reduced the Mixing Latency buffer size from 90 msec to 30, and the timing issue went away. I set it to 60, still fine. Set it back to 90, still fine... Obviously not that then!
 
I then recorded several takes, and it sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't. Here's a screen shot that should show the problem:
 

 
As you can see, the first take is early, and the other two are fine. When I left it recording with Loop ON, I got 6 takes, all in the correct timing, including the first. If it's not replicable, I can't see how to avoid it.
 
I don't suppose there's some known issue concerning recording audio from the first beat of a project, or something daft like that? All of the other projects I've tried recording have started a few bars in...
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks for the help,
 
Piers.

switch to asio and reboot, il bb-soon

No Driver Installation Required (page 7)
The MW system uses the standard drivers included in your
computer’s operating system, so there’s no need to install
any extra driver software.

now i dont know about you computer setup you might require some chipset drivers and updated video drivers

download CPU-Z ,, this will tell you make and model of the motherboard.. if you know what video card you have ....tell me

Piers66 : good work and yes yamaha support is a nightmare

I think this driver was probably necessary, 100% correct.. we can
go over more stuff tomorow.