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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 16:19:36
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I didn't know Steven Wright did Sonar videos!
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 16:24:07
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The voice over on that video sounds heavily medicated. Must be Berklee.
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 16:48:03
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I think the space ship pointer and wait state Jupiter image give sit all away
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 16:50:14
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2011/09/06 17:20:14
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 18:27:46
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Berklee online has several software courses, including Producing with Sonar, Pro-Tools and other related courses. I have not taken the Sonar course but have taken 6 other classes in their online program and have enjoyed each one.
They have been very informative and put together well
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 19:35:55
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And now we wait...as the sloth feeds on its prey....a nearby leaf. We must be ever so delicate as one slight movement will alert the sloth of our presence.. I love how they've tried to compensate the super lame instruction with that music..Some of these guys need to take a tip from Andrew Kramer at VideoCopilot, who does video FX tutorials in after effects, and has a really great way of teaching people from all levels of experience, and getting them passionate about visual fx. I wouldn't pay $1000 for the Berklee Sonar course. Far better alternatives out there for a tiny fraction of the price, many free ones to get people started too. Inserting a softh synth can be a legendary experience! We need passion!
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 20:19:53
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A thousand dollars ?? Eddie, are you kidding? Sounds like a good time to apply for a grant... it would be interesting to see if I could get a grant to pay for it. I wouldn't take out a school loan but it would be interesting to try and get a grant or scholarship. Then again, every video I have watched, Groove 3 and Anderton (sorry Craig, it isn't you) puts me to sleep... I start watching and by the third chapter I am linking and nodding. I think someone should produce an X1 video that involves bikinis. With a monotone teacher it would probably take me two years to complete the course.... really, if it is 1K... it sounds like it is overpriced like most college. Does someone have a link? Julien
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2011/09/06 20:40:04
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 21:19:01
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seems very expensive.
I have found that lynda.com is a pretty nice value for $25 monthly.
I have taken some ProTools tutorials; Reason, and Logic; (No Sonar at this time)
Also: I've learned a few things about Photoshop and WordPress, and SEO.
recommend this site highly
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 22:20:49
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The monotone delivery is definately an issue. He hit a home run by picking TTS-1 though. That'll surely liven things up. 
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 22:36:57
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I haven't taken the sonar class, but I've taken 9 other Berklee classes and they were all excellent. I don't know if they were all $1000 excellent, but learned some really key things in each class. Mostly music business and production related. The Critical listening / ear training classes are worth every penny.
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/06 23:31:53
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Hey Josh...did you ever get your "lost" project back?
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/07 02:20:40
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It's somewhere between creepy and hilariious... And the sound quality on the voice is so bad, it's not a showcase for anything except bad quality control. NO NO NO CW! Perhaps someone should go check out how ASK Video do their PT tutorials...
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/07 02:32:03
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I was seriously considering a online Sonar course with Berklee, but after this I definitely will not be spending the $1000+ with them.
Can anyone recommend another online course? I would like the course to teach me X1 Producer in depth, plus also teach about mixing and mastering techniques in general.
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/07 07:22:50
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Why would anyone want to spend a $1000-00 on a DAW course? Spend the money subscribing to Sound On Sound and Mix Magazine for several years rather.. :O)
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2011/09/07 08:17:40
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/07 09:21:47
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more annoying for me is the rubbish music.. he's using DnB breaks at a stupidly wrong tempo. I prefer the year pass to groove3 instead.. and it's far cheaper
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/07 17:56:35
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Never pay more for the training than the product.
A course that taught engineering and mixing and used Sonar as the DAW (or one of the DAWs) might be worth $1,000; but $1,000 for the software training is a joke.
I also think jbow is on the right track. They should do the training like a Univision game show: random enhanced girls unrelated to the topic dancing around.
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2011/09/07 20:01:28
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yorolpal
Hey Josh...did you ever get your "lost" project back?
Unfortunately not. CW did send me a repaired project file, but it didn't contain my comp edits :(. Still waiting to see if they'll give me another correct one. Otherwise I'll need to burn a day re-doing everything :(. "Never pay more for the training than the product. "
Good training is always worth while. It's not about the cost of the training, it's about the cost of fumbling about and not being prepared when you could have. That said, I'd never pay for a $1000 course for a DAW. With books like Sonar Power and the Sonar manual, there is no need. They teach you everything the software can do. The rest is all about mixing and engineering, which you can learn elsewhere. At the core, every DAW does the same exact thing, they just have different layouts and tool names. Knowing why you route things in certain ways and use certain verbs, delays, compressors and all that is a totally different skill. That also said, the other Berklee classes are pretty awesome. Going forward, I'm probably going to read the syballus of other classes I'd like to take and just go on my own to purchase the resources and self teach, because I can't afford any more. Though I was just granted a scholarship for a free class, so I'm stoked about that. Cheers,
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2011/09/07 20:25:36
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Gratz on the scholarship Josh! That's awesome
I have two classes left for my Masters Certificate and want to take several more classes after that. The problem is it's so darned expensive.
I started redoing that Karmen song in hopes of winning the free certificate program but life got in the way and I failed at finishing.
I agree on the not paying more for training than you did the software. As far as teaching yourself, we can learn anything we want via the internet in this day and age, its just nice to have A) an instructor that answers questions and offers feedback and B) projects to complete, which keeps you busy and motivated :)
I have also met and had several really good collaberations through the Berklee network of musicians, I do not regret any classes I have taken there.
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/08 14:15:23
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Hey, I have taken 4 Berklee classes and I'd say they where worth every penny. Each class changed the way I work. I highly recomend Berklee!
However...I have a hard time believing you could not learn Sonar without spending the $1k. Like others have suggested, grab Scott's book and subscribe to Sound On Sound, Mix Mag, Keyboard mag and you'd be way better off.
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2011/09/08 15:02:45
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/08 17:01:44
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I've taken several production and songwriting classes at Berklee and I thought they were fantastic, albeit expensive. For me, I wanted to kick start my flagging creativity with a program that had depth of material, class interaction, and a knowledgable and accessible instructor which Berklee definitely delivered. I now have a yearly subscription to groove3 which I highly recommend. Eli's excellent X1 videos are worth the price of admission alone but there is a treasure trove of production/theory/product related content that could keep one busy for hours and days and longer. The trick with any learning program is that one can easily become a perma-student and become mostly a consumer of interesting information as opposed to a producer of artistic creation..
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/08 20:15:09
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Youtube? All I saw was this: 
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2011/09/09 02:38:18
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Fog
I prefer the year pass to groove3 instead.. and it's far cheaper
This year pass to Groove 3, is it this one? Purchase option: 1 Year All-Access Web Pass $249.99 ... and this allows you to listen to any of the videos on any of the topics for 1 year?
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Re:Is this really BERKLEE's Sonar course? Is someone kidding here .... ?
2011/09/09 06:18:24
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to put this into perspective am sitting a BSc in audio, my tuitions fees for the year £1,820 , thats near enuff 3000 USD, and a berklee course is the third of that for one DAW, check your local colleges out or something, i think that berklee is a rip off !!!
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