bilo06
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Windows 8?
I'm still running Windows XP Pro with Sonar X1 Producer.
My music production apps run flawlessly on my XP system.
I have a Windows 7 Pro system at my teaching studio & it doesn't handle my software, including X1, as well as XP.
Now Windows 8 is coming out next year?
What does this mean for music production on the pc?
I'm actually entertaining the thought of switching to Mac.
What are your thoughts & experiences related to this general subject?
(Cakewalk personnel too!)
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dede
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 17:39:09
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I'm running XP and very happy, last time I installed Windows on my current system was OCT 2009, and it runs smoothly. Had some issues with X1c (plugins went funny and got to reset'em all) but X1b was smooth as possible. Never even had a thought for Vista, not even thinking about 7, not to mention 8...
Worked on Mac in professional studios(Digital Performer, Protools) and believe me: they do crash as well...
so..
<<<My music production apps run flawlessly on my XP system<< <you say?
don't do anything!
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vintagevibe
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 17:41:33
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Windows 7 is far more robust and stable than XP and does not require the tweaking for audio that XP did. You likely have issues on the systems you are talking about. It is by far the best OS for audio that MS has ever guilt. Can't comment on Win 8.
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 18:21:39
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vintagevibe
Windows 7 is far more robust and stable than XP and does not require the tweaking for audio that XP did. You likely have issues on the systems you are talking about. It is by far the best OS for audio that MS has ever guilt. Can't comment on Win 8.
exactly, besides running new application on old OS is asking for trouble.
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StarTekh
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 18:35:14
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I run Xp and Win 7 with-out issues. if your X-1 isnt working well on Win 7 i would say update your systems drivers 1st and read-up
on your bios befor
blaming X-1 !!
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bilo06
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 19:28:30
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I was not blaming X1!
I am very skeptical of W7 and its audio applications.
I had to do much experimenting and working around to get it to function properly. This was primarily with latency, having to use the Pod Studio GX as a sound card, and other things I can't recall.
In my experience, XP just out-performs 7 for audio apps and ease of use & tweaking.
Now we're looking at W8? When does XP support end?
I really wanted to upgrade my XP system to 7 but shied away after my studio pc experience.
I would really appreciate advice/support-oriented general responses to this OS & audio issue.
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kc2ine
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 19:44:31
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bilo06
When does XP support end?
tomorrow.
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timidi
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 19:51:25
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Why do you need "support", if it runs flawlessly ?
For that matter, why do you need 7 or 8?
I do think that in order to get reasonable responses, you need to supply some more information. Like, what are the 2 systems exactly.
Also, probably best to put dickhead on ignore.
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StarTekh
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 20:12:28
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timidi: so hows the new system >?
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peregrine
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 20:35:58
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Windows XP life cycle is here: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-gb&C2=1173 Because software manufacturers only write for supported operating systems, the farther you get from the support end date, the greater the likelihood you'll encounter an OS compatibility problem. You also potentially miss out on software feature enhancements that utilize new OS features. There are still millions of workstations using XP, so you're probably safe operationally until Microsoft or your software vendors notify you they will no longer support you on XP. But the fact is the XP support end date has passed, so you do need to come up with your own plan on how and when to migrate to a currrent OS. There is a lot of info on the direction of W8 you might want to read up on.
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timidi
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 20:51:41
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StarTekh
timidi: so hows the new system >?
Still on the dining room table. New card installed, Sonar is installed, updated DimPro (took hours), moving on to Rapture and whatever other synth updates there are (pentagon etc). Then will 'image', then proceed with VSTs. What a PITA....
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StarTekh
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 21:07:01
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wait till you fire that puppy up, is all il say !!!
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 21:32:10
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vintagevibe
Windows 7 is far more robust and stable than XP and does not require the tweaking for audio that XP did. You likely have issues on the systems you are talking about. It is by far the best OS for audio that MS has ever guilt. Can't comment on Win 8.
I agree 100%. XP was good, no doubt-but Win7 blows it away
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aleef
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/11 21:48:21
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What does this mean for music production on the pc? i dont know.. but i expect a roaring outcry from the tea-bagging old gaurd. the transition to W7 was smooth compared to Vista. the Xp faithful cried palin death panels as soon as they had a driver issue. in the end Vista was more stable than Xp ever was. there is not a dramatic between W7 and Vista .. upon the arrival of 8 i will have a new build thats ready for it. i just hope Toontrack, UAD, Cakewalk, etc etc are ready for it.
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soundtweaker
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 00:07:41
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daryl1968
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 07:33:16
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W7 is working flawlessly here. Research what people are saying about it not just with X1 but with most other music based software and you won't read many (if any) bad things about it.
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 07:57:42
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I needed some time to get to know W7. As stuff was "improved" (read icons were completely somewhere else). But 64 bit kept calling me. I did the step and I was happy. But if XP works for you, keep at it. W8 is gonna be made to work with large amounts of RAM and SSD. So it will be lightning fast but will leave a trace of incompatability behind I think.
I have a feeling W7 will be around for a long long time just to be compatible with older hardware. This is only a hunch. Cause if we look at Apple, boatloads of windows hardware is incompatible with Apple's OSX. So you may wanna switch to Apple. But today Protools 10 was announced by AVID. I'm quite sure when they lauch it they will simply ditch HUI. And leave the same trail of incompatible hardware behind as they allways do.
When the internal speed of software up's it won't wait seconds for a DVD to spin up. Or a harddrive to spin up. So I'm guessing with SATA600, Thunderbolt EFI USB3 and severall other new items we are not yet aware of I have a hunch W8 is gonna be a sort of a VISTA. A sort of testbed wich needs to drag on for a few years. Untill all the major players decide to invest in W9.
These are all hunches... But we'll see.
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vicsant
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 08:22:12
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So if we're still on XP, should we just wait for W8?
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peregrine
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 16:45:15
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When you ask that question, you'll get answers in this forum that say you're crazy if you switch, and crazy if you don't. The truth is, its an individual decision based on your particular circumstances. The mainstream support end date for XP was April of last year. The mainstream support end date for W7 is January 2015. If your XP is working just fine for you, the risks are mostly security issues and functional limitations. If your machine is not on the net and you're getting all the functionality you need, there isn't really a compelling reason to upgrade. Otherwise, if you think you'll have functional requirements that make an OS upgrade necessary, and you can wait a few months, you may as well wait for W8. You will want to make sure there are drivers and libraries available for your hardware and software, especially if you move from 32 bit to 64.
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groovey1
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 18:31:46
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I think it depends on what hardware you're using. I'm also running X1c on XP with no issues ... on a 3-year-old laptop. I can't see any real reason to upgrade the OS on that machine. My plan is to get some more life out of this laptop, and then at some point, upgrade to a 64-bit W8 machine (hopefully with a USB3 interface  ). And I'm thinking by waiting a while longer, any lingering 64-bit driver and other compatability issues should be sorted out. As far as the W7 machine you are having problems with ... it's probably something specific to that setup, rather than a general problem with the OS.
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Zo
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/12 18:57:28
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Op you got a system fully working but you want to switch to mac ....enough for me ..lol
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/13 09:35:36
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-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
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Freddie H
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/13 09:40:06
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-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/13 10:16:15
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I run my DAW on XP32.
I also have X1 installed on a Win 7 laptop, and personally, I can't wait to upgrade the DAW!
The difference between the 2 is like night & day
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/13 19:29:40
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/13 21:32:04
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I liked the end of this statement: “Windows 8 makes Windows 7 even better,” he [Sinofsky] claims before explaining that Microsoft has designed Windows 8 with Windows 7 in mind, everything that runs on Windows 7 runs on Windows 8."
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Re:Windows 8?
2011/09/13 22:10:19
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Today developers are seeing Windows 8 for the very first time.
Don't expect Windows 8 to come out until mid next year at the earliest (whatever MS says), and if you are sensible you should wait at least for the first service pack for a number of reasons. That makes it at least Dec 2012, so plenty of time for discussions about something that ain't gonna be around for a while.
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