What encoder does the Cakewalk MP3 Activation activate?

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2011/09/11 18:27:47 (permalink)

What encoder does the Cakewalk MP3 Activation activate?

I purchased the activation (and ran it) but am still getting the Lame parameters window (I have been using Lame for several years).

Isn't the fee for the Fraunhofer encoder license?


post edited by gwp99 - 2011/09/11 23:00:28

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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/11 19:35:58 (permalink)
    The Cakewalk MP3 Encoder uses LAME. If you are using SONAR x64, there is a separate mp3 activator for SONAR x64. You can contact Cakewalk to get the x64 version of the MP3 Activator.
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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/11 21:47:20 (permalink)
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    You can contact Cakewalk to get the x64 version of the MP3 Activator. 


    Thank You...I will do that right now!

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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/11 22:02:41 (permalink)
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    The Cakewalk MP3 Encoder uses LAME. If you are using SONAR x64, there is a separate mp3 activator for SONAR x64. You can contact Cakewalk to get the x64 version of the MP3 Activator.

    Alright, sent off to Cakewalk.

    Now, you are saying that Cakewalk is selling an Activation Fee that is for an Open-Source app  i.e Lame? ( I doubt that.)


    If that's the case, what does this Activation Fee get me that I didn't have before I bought it?


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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/11 22:18:09 (permalink)
    oops - duplicate!



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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/11 23:36:49 (permalink)
    For $19 it was worth it for me-I like the extremely user friendly dialog box you get when exporting. Nice choices, text, etc, etc.
    To mwe-just simple for the low cost

     
     
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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 02:28:24 (permalink)
    I nicely integrated interface for the free LAME open source encoder.

    They also provide and have done for years the full set of instructions for enabling the encoder yourself including a bunch of .reg files that make it happen.

    It only requres that you read the information that has been supplied with each and every version of Cakewalk's SONAR. If like many of us you prefer the shortcut and don't want to be bothered with all that then you can buy the activation off them.

    See you can't sell LAME but if you have a proprietary way of interfacing with it, you can sell that.

    It's a once only activation which will work for future versions. If you have Cakewalk Audio Pro 9 then it's included and allows you to get the 64 bit equivalent free.

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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 02:44:47 (permalink)
    "See you can't sell LAME but if you have a proprietary way of interfacing with it, you can sell that." This is right but where they are being naughty is that they're not making available the source code for the Open Source element that they're distributing. I believe this in contravention of the LGPL licence agreement. I mean, you wouldn't download a car..... Child
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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 03:44:52 (permalink)
    I belive that cakewlak have a license to distribute their own version. the encoder library is named TTSlame.dll and that's why we pay for it.

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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 07:05:05 (permalink)
    I have another program that includes an MP3 encoder so I just export as wav files and use the other program to convert to MP3 if needed. No need to buy some other add on.

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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 07:45:24 (permalink)
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    I belive that cakewlak have a license to distribute their own version. the encoder library is named TTSlame.dll and that's why we pay for it.
    I'd love to see a reference that LAME have done a dual licence option on their code, as far as I was aware it's just available under the LGPL (Lesser General Public Licence)
    The lgpl is a 'libre / copyleft' licence (certainly the version installed on my machine (with the official mp3 pack from Cakewalk) is) These licences stipulate that when you redistribute a complied version of the code you must also make available the source code so that the end use is free to make changes and complie their own version (this is the freedom that is enshrined by the GNU/GPL licence model.
     
    Cake used to host the source code for their edit of LAME on their site but it's been vanished for sometime now.
     
    If they don't have a comercial licence opt out for distributing LAME they are, in effect, downloading cars!
     
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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 10:09:21 (permalink)
    Perhaps it's something you should take up with Cakewalk.

    I was really just responding to the OP's doubt that cakewalk's encoder was the LAME version.

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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 12:24:07 (permalink)
    While open source, the fact is that LAME has technically never been a free thing. Fraunhofer and RCA have an MP3 technology patent portfolio that in practical terms, makes it almost impossible to distribute an encoder (LAME or otherwise) without committing a patent violation. So, if you're in a country (like the good ol USA) that allows enforcement of those patent restrictions, and you distribute an encoder commercially, Fraunhofer could get a cease and desist order and sue for damages. On the other hand, if you're in China, you can thumb your nose at them all day long. I think that's where the idea open-source=free has come from. Every country has different patent and copyright laws, so the requirements for example in Germany can be different than in Britain, and both can be different than the USA.

    Fraunhofer licenses through mp3licensing.com, and if you look there, you'll find that Cakewalk is on the list of licensed companies. So Cakewalk is paying a $5 or less royalty to Fraunhofer for each LAME activation they sell. They pocket the rest of the $19, and give you the capability to export mp3 from within the application.
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    Re:What encoder does the Cakewalk mp3 Activation activate? 2011/09/12 13:36:26 (permalink)
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    Perhaps it's something you should take up with Cakewalk.


    Meh, I just find it entertaining that folk will jump up and down and get all moral about illegitimate copies of Sonar or music piracy but are willing to disregards / sweep a similar infringement under the carpet when the tables are turned.


    Consistency is important, especially where morality is concerned, IMO


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