Problems moving several selected clips at a time... they won't move!!!!!

Anyone? I'm only created one project on X1 so far, but I know I will be doing this a lot for every project I ever make, so I'm hoping there's a fix...

Is it possible that moving those tracks and related overhead is just draining your memory and the graphics are slow to refresh? You mention that moving smaller numbers of tracks works well. I'd experiment with moving increasingly larger numbers of tracks and see if things slow down as you increase the graphics load.

I think this is what Craig is alluding to when he said it took several seconds for him to move a large number of tracks.

Bristol_Jonesey


Do any of your selected clips 'butt' right up to 01:01:000?

If they do, then you won't be able to drag them to the left, but dragging them to the right would be ok.

Just a thought.

What do you mean by "butt up to  01:01:000"? Yes, that is exactly my problem--I can move them to the right, but not to the left. Which does not help, because when I'm ready to copy-paste another instance of the chorus in my project, I'll copy-paste all the tracks of the chorus somewhere in the empty space to the right of my existing project, and move them (click+drag) them to the LEFT.

Help?

I'll copy-paste all the tracks of the chorus somewhere in the empty space to the right of my existing project, and move them (click+drag) them to the LEFT.

If you've pasted them later in the project somewhere, the copies shouldn't be starting at 1:01:000. Are you selecting just the range of measures that encompass the chorus, and copy/pasting them?

vaultwit

Bristol_Jonesey


What I meant was, you can't drag clips further back than 01:01:000. That's the "brick wall" if you like - you can't move them into a negative time area

The only way i can see this being a problem would be if one of your chorus clips was a lot longer than the others and trying to slide it back in time means it would hit the "brick wall" of 01:01:000

But  I don't think that's your problem.

Just as an experiment, try moving them in smaller blocks of 5-10 tracks. If this works then you might have found a bug.

Yes, moving smaller blocks of tracks (5-10 like you mentioned) works fine. If I copy-paste the entire chorus, then move the first 1/4, then the second 1/4, etc. It will work. Even if I pick 1/4 of the tracks I pasted in random (say the 1st track, 3rd track, 4th track, 6th track, and 17th track) they will move. But NOT if I select all 20-30 tracks.


The problem is that not all of my tracks are snapped into exact place. In other words, I had to sit there and manually align some of the audio tracks to make sure they are in place. And moving the bits and pieces of the chorus instead of the entire thing would mean taking a lot of time aligning and positioning tracks... a headache if I had to do that for EACH chorus i paste for EACH project I ever make on Sonar.

brundlefly

I'll copy-paste all the tracks of the chorus somewhere in the empty space to the right of my existing project, and move them (click+drag) them to the LEFT.

If you've pasted them later in the project somewhere, the copies shouldn't be starting at 1:01:000. Are you selecting just the range of measures that encompass the chorus, and copy/pasting them? 

Yes, you are correct.

Are we all able to agree that this is a bug?

brundlefly


The jury is still out over here. As I see it, we just haven't been able to figure out out what you're doing wrong, or what's wrong with your project. 


Too many of us are able to do what you're describing without problems for it to be a generalized bug.

I suspect if I could see it firsthand, I could figure it out.

I don't know how else to describe what it is I'm experiencing. Just imagine you have a full-blown project with, say, 30 tracks. Each track has MIDI clips sent to some sort of synth or VSTi. Most of the instrument tracks has some plugin effects, such as Percussion Strip, reverb, EQ, etc with various automation envelopes. And every track has ProChannel enabled.


Now you copy all the clips in the chorus, paste it it all to the empty space on the right of your existing project in the track view, highlight everyhing you pasted, and try to drag them to the left. They will not drag. Try to drag them to the right, they WILL drag. Drag them to the right, let go, and try to drag to the left and it will NOT work.


However, doing what I mentioned above with say 5-10 tracks works perfectly fine. Only when you have all 30 tracks selected, they will not move.

A couple thoughts...

Maybe there's a "rogue track" that sticks out much further to the left of the chorus, so when you paste, it butts up against 1:00:00 and keeps the other tracks from moving.

Try an experiment. Create a copy of the song so you're not working on the original.

Select the chorus you want to copy, and select all clips in the chorus.

Go to the Clips edit menu and select "apply trimming."

Paste it in the space to the right of the project, then try moving it to the left. Does it work now?

I agree it can't be a generalized bug if I can move 93 tracks at a time without a problem...what we have to figure out is why I can and you can't.