Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted)

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2011/09/18 12:58:49 (permalink)

Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted)

I am a very happy VS-100 owner, and find there is a lot to like (love) about this little device. But there are a few things that annoy me and wish they would make some improvements. These are not deal breakers by any means, more of a "why did they do it this way" sort of thing.
 
I will post a couple of my own, but would love it if anyone else has anything to offer this list.
Maybe others have an answer or a solution to some of these perceived annoyances they would like to share?
 
  1. Why is there a button for "DAW" / "WAVE RECORDER" if you can't actually swap between them. If a USB cable is plugged in (and to a computer) the DAW Is automatically selected. If there is no cable, Wave Recorder is selected. You are not allowed to make the choice yourself, so why have a button?
  2. Why can't the VS-100 connect as a Storage Device to the computer while at the same time work as a Controller? If you turn on "Storage" it becomes a really expensive, tiny little hard drive. It no longer works as a controller when you do this.

    2b: On the same note. Why does one have to restart the machine if you make this change. I could likely live with it if I could turn on storage, move files, turn off storage, continue work - without rebooting the VS-100.

    (There is a very recent thread about this, and is what inspired me to start this thread)
  3. Why is the internal routing so limited. Surely they can do a firmware update that will allow us more routing capabilities. For instance, the Headphone out is fixed to the mains. Maybe I want to assign Output 3/4 or 5/6 to the headphones instead!
I have a few others, but I'm more interested in hearing what others might have to say

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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/18 19:30:38 (permalink)
    good thread because I think this unit needs some OS update soon.
    Some buttons make no sense as you mentioned. I still don't understand fully the assign button
    and when track buttons actually get lit? Don't know what ACT buttons does in standalone mode etc.

    I agree with all your points and also I'd like VS100 to be more integrated with sonar 
    - e.g. metronome should turn metronome window when connected to DAW same way as marker buttons works BTW.

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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/19 16:22:30 (permalink)
    Good call on the Metronome button when integrated with Sonar.

    FYI: When full assign is turned on, the entire left side of the VS-100 can be assigned in Sonar using act. Everyy button and knob becomes assignable rather than just the few at the upper left. BUT - this comes at a price, because it will no longer funtion as a stand alone miser in this mode.

    The ACT button does nothing in Stand Alone mode, and worse yet, those four knobs and button to the upper left cannot be assigned in another DAW. They only work with Sonar!

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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/20 01:20:50 (permalink)
    codamedia


    The ACT button does nothing in Stand Alone mode, and worse yet, those four knobs and button to the upper left cannot be assigned in another DAW. They only work with Sonar!

    this 1.5 firmware looks line unfinished to me...
    What are the chance we'll see upgrade any time soon if at all?


    BTW, do you know if we can assign fader "button" action? because it does work as pressed doesn't it?
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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/21 00:36:21 (permalink)
    Another thing is View button (with shift), work strange - I think it should switch different views in Sonar.
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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/21 19:50:12 (permalink)
    The lack of output options in stand-alone mode. The poor channel meters. And the non existent gain reduction meter on the compressors. I still have not figured out how to appropriately set the the make-up gain.

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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/23 00:30:36 (permalink)
    Cannot understand how little responses we have here, how we can get an update soon if so few is interested...


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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/23 07:38:08 (permalink)
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    Cannot understand how little responses we have here, how we can get an update soon if so few is interested...


    To be honest, I didn't start this thread thinking Cakewalk (Roland) would read anything and fix it.
     
    If you want a change you need to submit it as a feature request: (Yes, the VS-100 is in the list, and yes - I have submitted a few suggestions)
    http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/featurerequest.aspx
     
    This was just meant to be a light hearted list of things that drive us crazy about this otherwise fine unit!

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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/09/23 18:28:33 (permalink)
    hey, that's a good one! didn't know we have something like that, gonna submit some request there.
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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2011/12/09 19:53:45 (permalink)
    1. The small knobs for the microphone pre-amp annoys me. The settings are very critical (parts of millimeter) for stereo recording, which I always use for acoustic guitar.
    I know this a hardware issue but maybe it's possible to create a software mixer with different costum settings?
    2. A new driver working flawless with win7 64 bit seems urgent. I had tremdendous problems getting X1, win7 64 and VS-100 under the same hat. The system wouldn't boot and if it did I had several crashes as well. The adventures (and solutions) are documented here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2401665
     
    Thanks coda2media for providing the future request link and codamedia for this thread.
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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2012/11/21 02:03:57 (permalink)
    The ability to record on the SD card AND use it as an audio interface at the SAME TIME.  I bought this thinking I could have one unit do it all in a live setting, but it looks like I could have just as easily kept sending wavs to my desktop using a basic VST wav recorder.

    Possible in a firmware upgrade?
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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2012/11/21 02:19:48 (permalink)
    Hello,

    I agree to all post above. The VS-100 is really a powerful hardware for musicians, but with a little bit more as mentioned, it could be the first choice for making music. So please make a little firmware-update asap. It would be a pleasure.

    T. Finkbeiner
     
    P.S.: But first Windows 8 - drivers please!
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    Re:Things that annoy you about the VS-100 (Light Hearted) 2012/11/21 21:33:56 (permalink)
    I just bought one and put it on my old DAW box. It picked up the system immediately with Win 7 and Sonar 8.5.3 PE. I wanted it to use on my think tank, and it does just what I need and want. The only problems I have with it so far is the lack of documentation concerning the Main input. Since it is an internal input it should be classified as such and there should be an instruction not to use it when other inputs are active and using input monitoring. LOOP!
    The Wave recorder is seperated and the storage function is seperated for the same reason as the main input as I see it. The main input goes to the DAW, it should only work to playback the Wave recorder without creating a feedback loop between active (1 thru 8) inputs and the main input.  Kinda tricky. But I think it's a great unit, I only wish all the inputs were TRS or digital.
    post edited by Crg - 2012/11/21 21:35:11

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