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2011/09/18 19:10:37 (permalink)

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hello i am terry redfearn new here enkoy using cake walk 6.o easier to use than 5.0 to me;
 so question i have is if a perosn uses the virtual instruments not demo packs and gives cake wlak creidt for its software can a person copyight that msuic he or she creates  using cake walk; i havent found a link stating for or against this so i appreciate input on any1 with knowledge thanks terry redfearn
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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/18 20:48:17 (permalink)
    Yeah. The samples are yours to use to record music and it can be copyrighted in your name. You have the license for the samples IF you have purchased and registered the program with Cake. 

    All of the synths are similar. The thing you can not do is use a sampler to "grab" or rip a sample form another artist's CD and use it without permission. 



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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/18 21:53:11 (permalink)
    +1 to what guitarhacker says.

    http://soundcloud.com/beaglesound/sets/featured-songs-1
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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/19 08:01:23 (permalink)
    of course...this is only scratching the surface on the full copyright law and the other options. 

    I would suggest a thorough google search and read some of the books on the business end of music. 


    For most songwriters, there is really no need to copyright their material. No one will likely want to steal it anyway..... have you ever tried getting a "good song" published....let alone an average song? Unless you have a track record, copyright is a waste of time and money.... but don't let what I say deter you if that's what you wish to do. Use collections though, it's cheaper. 

    BTW: I don't copyright my music but it is protected with creation dating through a 3rd party secure source. 

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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/19 18:54:06 (permalink)
    thanks guitar hacker
    i may have to be a self publisher and then sell music thru bear share.com or another service ascap song resitry agency can collect fee from have a grerat day
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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/19 18:56:51 (permalink)
    1 of my neighbors yearts ago told me she wrote a song and sang it didnt copyright later heards it playing on radio by another singer who is collecting the money reaosn why i copyright any lyrics before i let them loose thanks to every1 be blessed your friend terry
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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/20 08:07:20 (permalink)
    I know that Herb (guitarhacker) likes to use MasterWriter's "song registry" as a source of record for copyright.  however, I disagree with him on that if you plan to have your songs performed live by others (that's what ASCAP handles) or allow others to record your music (that would be handled by a licensing agent like Harry Fox) then you definitely need to register your songs with the US Copyright office and not rely on "publishing date" or "registry" from a 3rd party like MasterWriter.

    it's $35 per song or even per "collective works" and while that's not insignificant amount to some people, it's certainly worth it if someone steals your song like you're describing above!

    I don't have a lot of info on my website about copyright, but I know some folks who are very knowledgable about copyrighting and can get you more help with that if you wish.  but my advice is:  if you're going to let others record or perform your songs - get them registered in the US Copyright office (or appropriate government office if you're in a different country).

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    Re:copyright info 2011/09/20 08:22:54 (permalink)
    These days it is really rare to have something stolen. As a songwriter who is actively trying to get songs into the market, I can testify just how difficult it is just to get someone to listen let alone use it. 

    With as much really good writing as is out there, it is very doubtful that someone will bother to steal a song. I have run into a few people who claim to have written such and such of a song... (always a big hit) and they claim they sent it in and someone ripped them off.  There is never any way for them to prove what they claim. Anyone can say anything. The guy I met and wrote a few songs with claimed to have written the song "Misty Blue"..... but other then the story he told...there was no proof, and he never hired a lawyer to fight for his rights.  If a lawyer feels there is ANY validity to the story they would take it for a percentage... guaranteed! 

    But back to the topic. You can copyright if you feel the need. Or copyright a collection of songs to save money. A cheaper option is to use a 3rd party company with secured servers to time and date stamp your submitted work. Several are on the net that provide this service. It's faster and cheaper than the US-LOC copyright. 

    I use Songuard from Masterwriter. I register my works in about 60 seconds. Since it is a subscription service included with Masterwriter songwriting software, I can register as many songs or song ideas as I want and it's all included.

    Master Writer is $200. A copyright is $45.... do the math.... if you write 5 songs a year and copyright them with the LOC you could have bought MW with Songuard service included and 6 latte's from Starbucks and the rest of the songs you write and copyright would be free to register.....  for the rest of the year. (depends on the terms of the service of course)

    If I have a simple idea that I'm working on with a co-writer, I simply put the words into Masterwriter, and record a scratch audio track and submit it to Songuard service  to establish my date/time marker on the work. Then I submit the finished version... all included in that one price. 

    Check it out. It's a good deal if you write a lot of songs and you're worried about someone absconding with your ideas and music. 


    post edited by Guitarhacker - 2011/09/20 08:26:30

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