Now, here's how to Market an X1 Expansion

So true!

Bit of grass is greener thinking there. That comes after two solid months or more of bitter complaint about the upgrade prices, and applies only to owners of the reason / record duo package. Reason 6 offers very little that isn't already in the duo package, which is now discontinued, and people were up in arms about it.

This isn't great marketing at all, this is Properllerheads pulling back from the brink of an absolute marketing howler. I hope it works out for them, and I think this is a good deal (ish, it only lasts a month), but anyone who's been paying attention knows it's been a debacle.

:D

What's this? Taking a cool headed look at a company's product range, and buying what's suitable for you, when it's suitable for you? Crazy talk. One must at least be very angry about it.

Nice idea on paper, but in these hard times, you can expect that only a few individuals will pay anywhere near what the company would have asked for...  
 
Propellerheads will end up posting a loss for the next two fiscal quarters, a few (vital) employees will be "transitioned out" to compensate, and therein will begin the company's downward spiral.
 
Inevitably we can look forward to a huge expansion of their iApps department... 
 
 
 
 
 

I like the look of reason 6 but unless I've missed it I still don't see any sign of 64bit rewire and what's the betting that like all previous versions it still doesn't open at full screen? I really hate that they've ignored that for so long. Will read the full garb later but am rushing out the door. Steve

record was a gamble..that failed, if it had sold better, they wouldn't have ripped the guts out of it and chucked it into reason simple as that. Or offered a nice deal when I upgraded reason 4 to 5.. As much as NI dropped Kore 2 very quickly and not won any fans for it.

as for what e.blue said, loads will pay the bare minimum, why ? because they might as well have not put a "suggested features" on their forum , simply because they don't listen and instead of supporting products (the vast majority I own and see development near as stop) better just try to flog us new stuff. 

there is / was a bug in R5 and they totally ignored it..  big enough to be a prob (it didn't deal with older NN19 patches properly). 

Reason is a niche market.. so comparing it to anything else is a bit of an ask, with the main thing being no vst support. 

From what I've PERSONALLY experienced, they were happy to be all pally to new customers, yet forgot those who had bought their products already. A demo I went to reinforced that view, where new customers got offered a great deal on something.. and previous users (like myself) got offered no "deal"


with expansion in x1.. remember some of it includes licensed from softube.. so they'd have to pay a certain amount per unit to them etc. so it's not so cut / dried as if it was SOLELY native code.


but it's not something to compare... compare sonar against it's RIVALS sure.. but as much as reason is a music making program, I can't class it as a DAW even though I've used it since v1.


geography comes into it also, although some of the bakers have very english sounding names.. they are at a disadvantage regarding EU tax etc.  as much as mackie etc are also.

I wonder of the % of people who do / don't use a DAW with VST support with reason.

As much as like reason, there are too many FX / instruments outside of it I wouldn't want to give up.


no doubt there will be a "reason 6.5" soon after to recoup some money, they aren't a charity.
The biggest cost for them material wise is probably the dongle.. and well if we all have that from record.

twaddle


I like the look of reason 6 but unless I've missed it I still don't see any sign of 64bit rewire and what's the betting that like all previous versions it still doesn't open at full screen? I really hate that they've ignored that for so long. Will read the full garb later but am rushing out the door. Steve

You can spread the I/F over 3 seperate full screens if you want.