JeremiahHorner
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Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
This might be the wrong place for this but I'll give it a shot. I have the Focusrite LS56 and Sonar X1 Producer on Windows XP. The Focusrite drivers have given me nothing but grief so I've been using ASIO4ALL but that is no longer going to work for me. My question: is there anyone using a Focusrite interface that has experienced significant improvement in stability and latency by moving to Windows 7 with its different audio handling? I have no other reason to make the move but it's worth it if it can help these pathetic drivers. Thanks!
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/24 14:36:04
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Hi i am a Saffire Pro 26 i\o owner and i use Focusrite W7 drivers on W7 64 bit.It's rock ,stable and low latency value. It's my experience.Best. Roby
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/24 16:20:08
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I do not have any problems with my Saffire Pro 40 on Win 7 64 bit using the Focusrite drivers and Saffire Mix control.
I have had problems with ASIO4ALL and it screwed up my PC's sound card drivers.
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JeremiahHorner
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/24 17:20:38
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@GIM: What kind of low latency are we talking? I can get 5.8ms round-trip (2.2ms buffer)with ASIO4ALL but no less than 8ms round-trip with the Focusrite drivers.
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/24 17:33:36
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It's the same here,i don't know if you have in the Liquid Saffire ASIO panel the firewire speed option.I have select mine 1.5 ms.Default is 2 ms.With 4 ms on my Saffire i have no latency in audio and midi recording,monitoring too. Best
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/25 06:33:12
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Summer 2010 I tested a couple of different firewire interfaces - among them Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 on W7 x64 and it was rock stable and worked well with Sonar 8.5 at least.
I had plenty problems with firewire as such though - cables slighty bent towards the wall and suddenly no audio.
Too high cpu usage also. On a i7 860 I could not get less that 20% cpu on one core(7% overall on 8 cores) and dumped firewire all together. This wiothout even running Sonar - just keeping audio interface up.
You did not mention exactly what your problems were - but I would check cables are good quality and not bent with tension in any way. I had plenty such issues.
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/25 06:52:36
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lfm - can you do small comparison between Focusrite 56, Motu 828mk3 and M-audio Profire 26?
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/25 08:00:36
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adrian4u
lfm - can you do small comparison between Focusrite 56, Motu 828mk3 and M-audio Profire 26?
I just did tests for two I was interested in at the time - the Focusrite as mentioned and TC Electronics Impact Twin. Impact Twin I had weird behavior with WDM-driver that gave me BSOD on my system. And Sonar had trouble starting transport with ASIO , I had to press Playback 2-3 times before it finally ran. I went for RME internal cards and never looked back. I can also mention for OP that I ran the firewire interfaces in XP 32-bit also and it tool about 4% CPU on a P4 with HT enabled. So W7 is having some overhead it seems. But it may be my mobo too, a Dell Voxpro that is not so well suited for firewire, I don't know. I tested 4 different brands of firewire cards, with PCI and PCI Express, 3 with TI chipset and one with VIA. All gave the same result - VIA a little lower CPU.
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/25 17:24:06
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JeremiahHorner
@GIM: What kind of low latency are we talking? I can get 5.8ms round-trip (2.2ms buffer)with ASIO4ALL but no less than 8ms round-trip with the Focusrite drivers.
I can only acheive 8ms round trip @ 192k sample rate with the LS56 driver.. This has led me to fiddle with buffer settings.. but, I've got ZERO headphone/monitoring latency (while recording) once set up in ls56 mixcontrol... with LS56 driver. I'm aware that this can be problematic for those who want/need to hear Daw processed effects during the recording process.. but for me, there isn't a problem at all between what and when something is said/sung or played (midi/audio) and when I hear it. 64 bit rocks! dave Zero Latency Tracking [lang=ja] [lang=ja] Zero Latency Tracking is used for the recording process. It will automatically output Mix 1 and 2 to all your Line outputs simultaneously, and hence will route to the main monitors (1+2), and to the Headphone outputs 1 and 2. Line inputs and DAW outputs must be set up in Mix 1 so that you are able to monitor these sources with zero latency. You must also ensure that you are not monitoring the same signals from within your DAW at the same time, otherwise you will be monitoring the same signal twice (once direct from Saffire MixControl AND a second time (with latency) from your DAW.)
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/25 22:13:39
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I've been using Liquide saffire 56 with X1 with no prblems at all. My only complainte is that i do not sound until i turn my monitor knob almost half way. But that has absolutly nothing to do with Sonar. Here's alink to a video as how to set up your interface to work with Sonar. It should work. http://www.focusrite.com/...en/article.php?id=1076 dimanle
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/26 09:24:04
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Saffire 56 and Pro24 DSP user here . Moved to Win 7 64 bit and been rock solid Make sure you have the latest Focusrite drivers and a TI based FW card and change the FW card driver to Legacy.
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/26 09:38:43
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Musicman - what minimal latencies you can run Saffire 56 on X1, to make recordings with rehearsal after DAW? (i.e. is it possible to record electric guitar with Guitar Rig plugin and listen to processed sound without noticeable latency?)
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/26 09:42:10
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in other topic I asked about some interfaces I have to choose from (I want to buy one of the bunch: Motu 828mk3, TC Konnekt48, M-audio Profire 26 or Liquid Saffire 56). What would be your proposal? the maximum price is +/- 830$ for used gear. Mandatories: FireWire, 8x8 with 2 ADAT ports, 2 mic preamps.
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/26 10:08:12
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Adrian I havent tried GR4 in real time (i heard GR hogs CPU), I apply my FX after the recording, so I am sorry I cannot answer that, but I am sure some one else will. I now can dial down to 128 samples with no dropouts , where as before I had to use 512 samples in projects. The Saffire 56 has the requirements you listed, and has the nice Liquid emulations on two preamps, I went to Sweetwater and made a chart of the four to compare http://www.sweetwater.com....php?items=%28828mk3Hy|SaffireLQ56|ProFire2626|KonnektStu48%29 SORRY LINK NOT WORKING !!!
post edited by musicman100 - 2011/09/26 10:15:22
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/26 10:09:54
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Re:Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 Drivers
2011/09/26 10:16:18
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try one more time MEH Chrome not inserting link, it sure cannot be the forum software can it ....
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