This "upgrade" thing & presets

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2011/09/25 23:02:56 (permalink)

This "upgrade" thing & presets

I upgraded to Sonar X1 a while back, and when I did so, I had some problems. The main ones were that I was now using Dimension x64, instead of the old 32-bit Dimension I bought some years ago, and I was also now using Guitar Rig 4 that shipped with Sonar X1, vs. the old Guitar Rig 3. When this happened, I lost a whole bunch of stuff. I ended up largely rebuilding the tracks I was working on, adding new Dim Pro x64 instances and deleting the old Dim Pro x32 instances, and losing my old Guitar Rig 3 settings and rebuilding my guitar effects in Guitar Rig 4. It took a fair bit of time. Now I'm late in a project, and afraid to upgrade anything. I'm primarily interested in maybe adding Komplete8, but that adds Guitar Rig 5. What will happen then? Can I add Komplete8 without trashing my tracks that are using Guitar Rig 4? What's the proper process for this stuff? I've been bad about saving everything as a named preset - is that an essential part of being able to upgrade an instrument without losing current settings?
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    czyky
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    Re:This "upgrade" thing & presets 2011/09/25 23:55:44 (permalink)
    I had similar issues with a Dim Pro upgrade (and Rapture). I can't answer for Guitar Rig, but here are some things I learned:

    1) Finish the project first, THEN upgrade. 

    2) Yes, save and name your presets. It's a hassle for me too, but I've learned (the hard way) to do it. I ended up reusing them a lot anyway, so for me it was a good idea for my efficiency as well.

    3) Before any upgrade, make sure you have a fallback route. One route is system restore, to undo the upgrade. Another is having old and new versions installed side-by-side, like 8.5 living with X1 (that's the only way I could ever approach X1, I can revert back to 8.5 regularly when the frustrations get too much--another story). I don't know about two versions of Guitar Rig existing side-by-side, I doubt it. Two machines work great in this case. I was lucky to have a performance version of everything on a laptop, which I DID NOT upgrade (with Dim Pro and Rapture) until I knew all projects in question had made the jump. That way, when a project had problems loading on the upgraded daw, I could load it on the un-upgraded laptop, see what was missing, write it down, recreate on the upgraded project. A significant hassle, but my important work was savable. (Non-important work is still sitting in a get-around-to-it folder, sort of a recycle-bin-II.)

    4) Freezing is your friend. Frozen tracks will make the jump and still sound just the way you want. You can use them to make sure your new GR set up matches your old GR. So, bounce to track is probably a better option in that case, you have the "original" track and an audio copy as insurance.
     
    5) Sometimes when I had missing settings when jumping across upgrades, I decided the settings weren't that sacred anyway. On some projects, I was probably in a better position (through learning experiences in the meantime) to improve things apply better settings/patches anyway.


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    Re:This "upgrade" thing & presets 2011/09/26 00:37:06 (permalink)
    As for the LE versions of GuitarRig, you can have 3 and 4 LE on your PC. I currently have GuitarRig 3 LE and GuitarRig 4 LE on my system. There is a 32bit and 64bit version for both 3LE and 4LE. You just need to use NI Service Center to update to the newest versions.

    When I upgraded to X1, which came with GuitarRig 4LE, I had no problems with older projects that used GuitarRig 3 LE, as I updated to the newest version using Service Center. I don't know how or why you would lose presets, if you can keep GuitarRig 3 LE and 4 LE on your system, and at worst you could have run the 32bit version of GuitarRig using BitBridge or jBridge, in SONAR X64.
    Hope this helps.
    post edited by thomasabarnes - 2011/09/26 00:44:31


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    Re:This "upgrade" thing & presets 2011/09/26 02:46:12 (permalink)
    I didn't use Service Center. I just installed Sonar X1, and kind of let the installer take control... Note: I reserve the right to make newbie errors. :)
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    Re:This "upgrade" thing & presets 2011/09/30 00:40:53 (permalink)
    And: many peoples do not use the plugin manager to save presets to move them to the new machine.

    And then they are sad peoples.
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