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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/09/26 13:40:10
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/02 11:43:51
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Good ol' fashioned 'Bass' and 'Treble' controls for your DAW. This is an absolutely unique little gem of a plug.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/02 22:04:25
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I am amazed at how often my EQ settings end up looking like Baxandall curves. I could probably use a simple "tilt" filter for 50% of my tracks. But what really surprises me is how the industry is gushing over this amazing new invention from 1952.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/02 22:51:28
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bitflipper I am amazed at how often my EQ settings end up looking like Baxandall curves. I could probably use a simple "tilt" filter for 50% of my tracks. But what really surprises me is how the industry is gushing over this amazing new invention from 1952. Are they? All I know is this little tool does exactly what I want with no frills. Which is pretty much being able to simply round out the low end and a little emphasis in the mids in the centre improving mono compatibility while at the same time being able to tweak the sides independently. It also nicely filters out much of the wasted low end energy that I can only see but can't hear. Nothing new, fancy or 'boutique' about it I thought just a nicely thought out simple package that does a simple task for something I'd probably use 2 or 3 plugs to achieve the same result with when required. And besides didn't you just love fiddling with them tone controls on Ma and Pa's radiogram? The Bass one particularly... It's also another toy and looks kewl to boot... btw it's free as well where's the downside you gotta ask? Don't be ashamed Dave to say how nice and useful it is after all when you do try it... It's one of those tools like an apple corer sure you can use a knife to do the same job but one in and out with the corer and you're just left with the fruit. I love those kinda things.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/02 22:59:48
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I always thought it was developed in the 1940s. Never heard of anyone gushing about it, maybe in 1993 when Waves was released. Weren't they were one of the first co's to release audio vst's using the filter in Q10 or Renn eq ??
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/02 23:08:11
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carl I always thought it was developed in the 1940s. Never heard of anyone gushing about it, maybe in 1993 when Waves was released. Weren't they were one of the first co's to release audio vst's using the filter in Q10 or Renn eq ?? Me neither but I think Bit spends too much time hanging out in all them trendy gear forums...
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/02 23:12:00
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Check out the "Tilt" Eq from Softube. Just what the doctor ordered and on "50%" off sale.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/03 10:08:46
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yorolpal Check out the "Tilt" Eq from Softube. Just what the doctor ordered and on "50%" off sale. Yeah but that's still $50 and an iLok more, and does it do M/S processing?
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/03 11:01:54
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Me neither but I think Bit spends too much time hanging out in all them trendy gear forums... Maybe so...but I see that Ampeg is now advertising amplifiers with "Baxandall EQ", and of course there is the severely overpriced BaxEQ from Dangerous Music. Would consumers still be sucked in if the vendors were honest and said "It has bass and treble knobs!"?
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/03 11:36:48
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bitflipper Me neither but I think Bit spends too much time hanging out in all them trendy gear forums... Maybe so...but I see that Ampeg is now advertising amplifiers with "Baxandall EQ", and of course there is the severely overpriced BaxEQ from Dangerous Music. Would consumers still be sucked in if the vendors were honest and said "It has bass and treble knobs!"? Probably their latest promo, didn't Ampeg amps for the most part always feature baxandall eq filters since 1950's?
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/03 21:56:05
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bitflipper Me neither but I think Bit spends too much time hanging out in all them trendy gear forums... Maybe so...but I see that Ampeg is now advertising amplifiers with "Baxandall EQ", and of course there is the severely overpriced BaxEQ from Dangerous Music. Would consumers still be sucked in if the vendors were honest and said "It has bass and treble knobs!"? True enough - just bass and treble knobs - but you can steer them around a little bit. It really does a nice job for simple smooth shelving. That's the design intent, it works well and it's free.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/03 22:32:26
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...didn't Ampeg amps for the most part always feature baxandall eq filters since 1950's? Yes, as have all guitar amplifiers since the dawn of time. But audio gear marketing weenies have never gone wrong estimating the gullibility of GAS sufferers.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/03 23:05:25
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 03:53:48
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yorolpal Where are my Tums??? You have more than one?
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 07:16:22
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Sure anybody can emulate what this simple FREE plugin does. The manly way is to decode stereo to mid side send the two channels to seperate busses put high and low pass filters and a couple of eq's with wide q's on those busses to act as 'tone' controls to the mid and side components independently on your mix, send those busses back to a stereo bus and recode to stereo. Or if you don't want to go to all that trouble to prove that you can grow a beard and sing like Lee Marvin you can simply drop this plug on it. [clean shaven, falsetto voice] That's the simple job this does, it does it well and I'm liking it. [/clean shaven, falsetto voice]
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 09:27:30
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Jonbouy Sure anybody can emulate what this simple FREE plugin does. The manly way is to decode stereo to mid side send the two channels to seperate busses put high and low pass filters and a couple of eq's with wide q's on those busses to act as 'tone' controls to the mid and side components independently on your mix, send those busses back to a stereo bus and recode to stereo. Or if you don't want to go to all that trouble to prove that you can grow a beard and sing like Lee Marvin you can simply drop this plug on it. [clean shaven, falsetto voice] That's the simple job this does, it does it well and I'm liking it. [/clean shaven, falsetto voice] You're a funny man JB [clean shaven, deep manly voice]. Are any of the other plugs at variety of sound useful? if so, which ones?
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 10:40:17
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Are any of the other plugs at variety of sound useful? if so, which ones? Of the general use ones the ones I most commonly use are in order: Ferric TDS - Tape style compression and saturation Density II - Bus Compressor (I use it as often as my UAD Precision Bus Comp) Nasty VCS - Console Strip (Refreshingly unlike any of the plethora of SSL emulations) Nasty DLA - A Nicely Coloured Delay device I find ' Prefix' performs a number of useful special utility functions I like too. Particularly phase (mis)alignment. A nice gate too. Again I use this as often and sometimes in preference to my UAD Little Labs IBP. Because they are free there IS no marketing hype and most of them fill the gaps provided by commercial developers all running with the 'pack'. This seems to be intentional if you read any of Bootsy's blogs, and it is certainly refreshing. The quality of them too is as good as any and better than some commercial stuff all for free. So for me it's hard to understand why a comment like But audio gear marketing weenies have never gone wrong estimating the gullibility of GAS sufferers. would crop up on this thread. It makes me wanna hear Bit's version of 'Wandering Star' now...
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 13:14:15
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OK, you guys have piqued my curiosity so I had to give this plug a go. Sure enough, the filter works nicely for adding a gentle brightness to the 2-bus, as well as slightly exaggerating width when you brighten the Side component independently. I was less impressed with what it did on the low end, although the fixed-slope low-cut filter is handy. Next, I tried it on a drum bus. I rarely use EQ on my drum bus, preferring instead to get the desired spectral balance from tweaking each instrument separately. As expected, shelving filters aren't really the way to go on a drum bus. I would not use Baxter EQ on a drum bus, but I'd consider it on a snare. Finally, I put it on a vocal bus, not expecting much. But I was surprised at how well it worked in this context. This time, though, I happened to look down at the CPU meter and was surprised that inserting Baxter EQ made the meter jump from 44% to 55%. By comparison, inserting Pro-Q only raised the reading to 47%. So I have to subtract points for CPU efficiency. The next question is whether Baxter EQ adds anything that I can't already do using my existing toolkit. I was able to duplicate its effects with Pro-Q, albeit with slightly more effort. I then tried to match it with Ozone, but because Ozone's shelving filters are different I wasn't able to quite dial it in exactly. So in the end I have to concur with you guys that a) Baxter EQ is indeed useful and probably a little different from anything you already have, and b) a great bargain at zero dollars. Will it earn a permanent spot in my toolkit? Don't know yet. I'll try it on a few projects and see how it goes.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 13:46:31
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There ya go... I pretty much concur with that review, CPU usage on any of Bootsy plugs whilst not too bad is rarely anything to write home about, I suppose because they are authored with SynthMaker although the algorithms he uses are highly optimised within that. I agree about the low end performance too but I find the lower you go the better it is especially when you butt it up against the filter, for those using those kind of rattling sub basses in Dance and D&B are going to love it. You can go for some big energy way down there without fear of wasting it in the realms of the inaudible.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 14:20:52
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Sounds like something I might use....and the price is right.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 21:12:14
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Ok, you talked me into it, I'm going to give it a whirl.
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/04 23:45:01
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very nice, Thank You for the link!
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Re:Baxter EQ Released
2011/10/05 11:09:05
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I goofed with it a bit yesterday and found it very smooth...and subtle. At first, I wasn't sure it was doing much of anything. Then...duh...I started listening;-)Does munch the CPUs tho.
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