Pre fader issue (signal volume)

Gotta be something else going on here. I've never heard a report of the pre/post fader toggle not working, in any version of SONAR. How about a screenshot that shows all the track settings and the affected busses?

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Okay, so I see Track 2 with fader at 0dB with a 0dB pre-fader send to Bus 2 (time to do some Track and Bus naming ) that has a delay FX on it, and that delay bus is also at 0dB.


And I can't tell, but I would hope that you have the Delay set up 100% Wet (only delayed signal coming from the FX bus), and the output level of the delay FX is something less than 0dB, yes?


Now which fader are you lowering, and what is and is not dropping in volume?


EDIT: Incidentally, this is not a situation in which one would typically want a pre-fader send, so it might help if you clarify the goal, too.

when i lower the track 2 fader the volume drops

That's exactly what I would expect. Basically you have two signals of equal strength going to the master bus with one delayed. When you lower the track volume, that half of the signal drops, and your net signal level drops with it.

Also, because the direct signal is dropping relative to the delayed signal, it may sound somewhat like the vocal is moving back on the soundstage, away from the listener. This is why you'd normally want to keep the send Post-Fader, so the level of the delayed signal (which would usually also be lower than the direct signal) maintains the same relationship.

I don't understand why you wouldn't expect/want the net level to drop when you lower the track fader or why you set the send as Pre-fader...?

yea johnny thats basically what im going for it kinda seemed like doing it that way would add me some depth to the vox but all keep the clarity...as far as naming tracks that would help out a lot...maybe i will start to...any easy way to add depth to vox when i use reverb or a delay in post fader i just can't get the vox to sit well... i adjust faders, fx output etc... i was only trying the pre fader for this reason, to me my friends vocals sound better with the technique that he used...