Mackie Control Surface & X1 PC

Sign me up for this one, been riding the Mackie love on a BCF thanks to FBB.     

If there is and I can't find it I apologize - but if you haven't already would someone mind filling out a problem report listing all of the things that do not work correctly as well as all the things that you would like to see?

If there is already one shoot me a PM with the CWBRN and I'll take a gander.

Also - is anybody out there using a C4, is it a similar story there as well RE: ProChannel?  Is Mackie even making that still?

Thanks,

Ok here's my bug report just submitted - CWBRN 6309


Multiple Bugs when using the Mackie protocol with an MCU
 

1. Connect an MCU to Sonar using the Mackie Control Surface Preset
2. Preset setting in properties box not recalled when first loading. I need to open the Mackie Surface properties box each time I open SOnar and load my chosen preset
3. Prochannel modules not visible to MCU at all except the EQ. The compressor should be visible when pressing DYN, others when pressing "plugin"
4. M1 + Mute - Does nothing
5. Fit tracks - Does nothing
6. Fit tracks + M1 - Does nothing
7. Fit tracks + M2 - Brings up Track Manager
8. Fit tracks + M3 - Does nothing
9. Fit tracks + M4 - Shows All
10. Next Window doesn't work on all windows especially Console, multidock, etc
11. Read On/Off + M1 - Does nothing
12. Undo + M3 - Does nothing
13. Redo + M3 - Does nothing
14. Up Cursor+Zoom+M4 - Does nothing
15. Down cursor+Zoom+M4-Does nothing

EXPECTED
 
 

1. Works as expected except for the list provided.
2. changes made and saved to be remembered
3. the PC Compressor parameters should show when pressing the DYN button and other modules via the plugin button
4. the mute button state data to be written as automation data
5. all tracks to be fitted to TV
6. all tracks hidden to become visible
7. all selected tracks to be shown & all others to be hidden
8. Show & fit selection
9. All selected tracks to be hidden
10. To cycle through all open windows
11. To toggle faders on & off
12. Undo last Zoom
13. Redo Zoom
14. Fit tracks to Window
15. Fit Project to Window

ACTUAL

1. Preset setting in properties box not recalled when first loading. I need to open the Mackie Surface properties box each time I open SOnar and load my chosen preset
2. Prochannel modules not visible to MCU at all except the EQ. The compressor should be visible when pressing DYN, others when pressing "plugin"
3. M1 + Mute - Does nothing
4. Fit tracks - Does nothing
5. Fit tracks + M1 - Does nothing
6. Fit tracks + M2 - Brings up Track Manager
7. Fit tracks + M3 - Does nothing
8. Fit tracks + M4 - Shows All
9. Next Window doesn't work on all windows especially Console, multidock, etc
10. Read On/Off + M1 - Does nothing
11. Undo + M3 - Does nothing
12. Redo + M3 - Does nothing
13. Up Cursor+Zoom+M4 - Does nothing
14. Down cursor+Zoom+M4-Does nothing

I have no idea whether multiple bug reports gives any more priority to fixes but the list is there for others to use/add to/delete if they so wish.

PS. There may well be a couple more but that's the ones I notice most.

Thanks for your response FBB.
I did search on this before I bothered the board, so I've read a lot of your posts and have learned a lot already.
Overlay is in place, but that would not effect SELECT keys anyway.
I'm assuming from a starting position that I've got something hosed here, so I won't be doing bug report until my due diligence is excercised/frustration level hits redline.
 
Select buttons light on board when pressed, but have no effect on program. If I had something basic wrong, would sliders and pans work?
 
I've been using Cakewalk since DOS sequencer years. Currently running on a hand built dedicated comp I7 Sandy Bridge overclocked to 5.1 gig  with octacapture. Everything has been dead stable from the beginning, and for months now. I just missed having a control surface. Used SI-24/RPC for years. Total lack of Roland support for that is not comforting me now that they own Sonar. They pretty much told me they'd "moved on" 9 months after I'd bought the damned thing new.
 
Usually just solve my own problems by reading and beating my head against it till it gives, but wondering if anybody else has this issue. If unit is defective I need to know in time to return it.
 
Again, thanks.

Willy Jones [Cakewalk
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If there is and I can't find it I apologize - but if you haven't already would someone mind filling out a problem report listing all of the things that do not work correctly as well as all the things that you would like to see?

If there is already one shoot me a PM with the CWBRN and I'll take a gander.

Also - is anybody out there using a C4, is it a similar story there as well RE: ProChannel?  Is Mackie even making that still?

Thanks,

I have a C4 as well as a Mackie MCU
The C4 really just follows the MCU settings
Example.
MCU you have to toggle thru sets of 8 knobs and use the Pan knobs on the MCU to control
C4 first 4 sets of 8 knobs (32 total) are available to use without having to scroll down slots
 
The changes to the mackiecontrol.ini file that FBB posted a while ago all worked perfectly on the c4. (well for the EQ)
 
I think it's a case of, what the MCU sees the C4 sees, so, I think, it's just a case of getting the MCU incorporated nicely and the the C4 will follow suit.
 
Mackie have stopped making the C4, but it works with sonar just as much as the MCU, so please keep it that way, it's a great piece of kit.
 
Freex

FastBikerBoy


Thanks for the reply Willy. I'm on it. I put it in as a feature request rather than a bug report so I don't have a CWBRN number.

I'll list everything I can find and put it all in one bug report.

Thanks again for the reply, I know there are many on here using the Mackie protocol who'll be very grateful for an update.

Send a PM with what you list. I'll add stuff if I can but I would like to send a problem report too. I would like it to be coordinated if possible. I hope this makes sense.

This is a very important issue and CW needs to act on this ASAP. 

Thanks Willy for answering.

Thanks FBB for your detailed QA (and your great previous MCU tips) and Willy for escalating MCU support in bugfix! I'm looking forward to my MCU working in X1D the way it should.

Wood67


Could I add the ability to have the MCU (I'm using the Behringer BCF2000) work with the buss channels as well?  tbh I'd find that more useful that access to the pro-channels.

It already does, or should anyway. Just press and hold the top left button of the main bank (not the channel buttons) and then press the button to the right of it. The LCD should change from tr to bu and you will now be able to control busses.

I wrote a guide for the BCF in Mackie mode a while ago that explains how to use all the various controls. That is HERE.

I've not seen much of it but Guy Martin certainly is 'the man'.

As you probably know he's a great racer and certainly doesn't play the 'politics game' in race teams or series. He was infamously banned for a while from BSS 600 racing (IIRC) for slamming shut a race officials laptop on his fingers.

I've also had the pleasure of watching him 'work' at the TT and I have the utmost respect for all those riders especially Guy with his matter of fact attitude.

If you've never been to the TT it's something you should do at least once, even if you're not a bike racing fan, it's a week long party with some racing in between.

I think standing at the bottom of Bray Hill as bikes go through the pedestrian crossing just a few feet away at over 180mph missing the kerb by literally inches is one memory that will stay with me forever. Lunacy doesn't do it justice, imagine your local high street and a bike going past at nearly 200 mph while you stand on the kerb (with no barriers) and you'll get the idea.

Here's a great clip - note the sparks from the bottom of the bike as it bottoms out on the crossing.

Obviously the 'ealth & safety nazis have never been to Isle of Man. I hope they never do. It's easy to see why you need to book years in advance to get the ferries and accommodation you want.

Anyway apologies for dragging this OT

Meanwhile an update to the Mackie Control dll will be very welcome