ltb
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Change Default Pan Law
What's the correct way to change the default start up pan law in X1 to "setting to -3 center, sin/ cos/ taper, constant power" change this number in config? PanLaw=? thanks
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ba_midi
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 15:43:13
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carl What's the correct way to change the default start up pan law in X1 to "setting to -3 center, sin/ cos/ taper, constant power" change this number in config? PanLaw=? thanks The best approach, imho, is to set it properly in your default template (normal.cwt) so that everytime you start a new project (and load normal.cwt to begin), it's set properly. I'm not sure there is any other way - anyway ;)
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ltb
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 16:00:53
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thanks, I ended up editing the config. file/ Pan Law=2 & it seems to work fine.
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 16:10:04
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I think Anderton recommends that setting in his video... (could have been X1 POWER! though), it made sense when I read/heard it. J
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 17:24:59
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jbow I think Anderton recommends that setting in his video... (could have been X1 POWER! though), it made sense when I read/heard it. J What's the advantage?
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 19:59:50
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What's the advantage? Off the top of my head, I do not remember. I just remember hearing it. I'll try to look it up tomorrow. IIRC, maybe it helps keep some headroom for mastering... but that is just what I "think" I remember, I could be wrong... but I will look to see. Julien
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BenMMusTech
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 20:05:46
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The pan law is suppose to help mimic mixing consoles. Most mixing consoles have a dip in volume on the left and right side by about -3db although SSL apperently sets theirs to -4.5db, this is because SSL believe their consoles are only be used in properly treated studios. The benifits of setting the pan law is better stereo imaging and a bit more headroom. So I set my pan law to -3db but if I am mixing a song that is more mono or is indeed mono I will set the pan law to zero. Peace Ben
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 20:09:01
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I think Ben you might be getting this wrong. As far as I know the level at extreme pan settings is not changed but rather it is what happens to the level in the centre that is important.
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 20:11:13
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So will changing the pan laws make songs/mixes sound wider???
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 20:21:21
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Hi bladetragic basically no because if you move a sound no matter what the pan law is going to be you will then obviously have to readjust it or you will be setting its level anyway after the pan move. But where it does come into play is when you have a sound starting in the centre and you start moving it either side. You will notice it moving out the edges a bit differently according to the pan laws involved. Here is some more info on it as well: http://www.samplecraze.co...al.php/35/panning-law/ Things get different as well if you sum to mono because then the middle signal can get louder again.
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Re:Change Default Pan Law
2011/10/08 23:19:36
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you can also change this in preferences > driver settings Scotts book mentions that -3db, sin/cos taper constant power panning law is recommended because its widely supported and somewhat a standard for designing analog mixing boards, also less chance of clipping when panning a full level track hard left or right, as opposed to 0db center law which boosts by 3db when panning hard
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