Brad
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Windows 7 and my Dakota card
Just waiting on my new computer to arrive and after having e-mailed Frontier Design they tell me they're not supporting any new drivers for windows 7. Yes, They tell me there are beta drivers. Anyone using this card with the beta drivers ? Any problems I need to be aware of ? If needed, what other sound card can I use that will allow me to keep my Tango24 configuration into my computer the same. (Adat optical connection). It's been a great card and has served me well. I hate to have to make a drastic change after all these years. Thanks for any help.
Brad
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/14 14:24:06
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Hi Brad,
Depending on which motherboard/chipset you have in the new machine, the Dakota may or may not work.
If it installs/works, you may encouter some BSOD when opening the unit's control applet.
I can't remember the exact sequence that causes the BSOD... but I remember there was a way to circument the problem. All that said, the Dakota was a great audio interface... but you'll ultimately be forced to move to a newer unit (whether it's this upgrade or the next). The upside is that you have numerous good choices.
FWIW, I wouldn't worry too much about keeping the Tango-24.
You can get a unit with 8 channels of analog I/O (better specs than the Tango-24) for $500-$600.
If you sell the Tango-24, that would cover some of the expense.
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Dave Modisette
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/14 18:16:03
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I am running Win 7 x64 with a Dakota card and beta drivers. I've had some BSODs but I'm not sure I could attribute it to the Dakota drivers.
The worst thing Jim Roseberry ever did was sell me the Dakota card. Worst thing for him, that is. I haven't bought a card since some time back in the late 90s. ;)
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Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/15 16:07:58
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Thanks so much to both of you guys. I'll try my best to stay with what I've got but as you say Jim, eventually I'll have to do something. I was really hoping to just get a new card if I needed that, but to have to get both a new card and converter is a major pain. I just spent 1,000 bucks on a new computer.
What are the choices out there that you think I should look at ? 8 ins and 8 outs is all I need. Don't need Midi, Don't need SPDIF. I still use my old Mackie 1604 VLZ mixer and it's been flawless. It's been so long since I've had to research this. I am so "out of the loop" I thought my ilk were obsolete 20 years ago. What, with sound on sound and 4 track multi track tape recorders. Anyone want an ADAT and a Studio 64 XTC by Opcode ??? Thanks Dave, Thanks Jim. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/21 22:04:58
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Hey Guys...
I just opened the back of the new computer. Even though from the outside there seems to be a bunch of PCI slots from the look of the little metal covers on the computer, there are no places inside the computer to click a sound card into. It looks like there are just empty slot holders. WTF !! I opened my old computer and on the inside by those slots there is a spot where the card clicks in. (similar to a memory stick slot.) Not on the new computer. So, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and get a new interface. Does thie mean an AD/DA converter too ? and what is the best type of connection to the computer ? Firewire, USB, etc... How do these new interfacs connect to my Mackie 1604VLZ ? Is the Tango useless for me ? What do I use instead. I liked that 8 tracks (inputs) went digitally back and forth on two light pipe ADAT optical wires. It's been so long I am really lost. What are your suggestions ?
The New Computer is a dell XPS 8300
Intel Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40ghz
Installed memory 12GHz
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Thanks Guys.....
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/22 07:29:32
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There are PCIeX1 expansion slots in the 8300. You are probably looking for older PCI expansion card slots. Anything new will have to have the PCIeX1 interface.
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Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/22 11:54:00
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Thanks for the reply....
O.k, so I would need an interface to connect to my audio interface ? Are there any forseeable problems with that ? Where would I get such an interface? From Dell ?
Thanks again..
Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/22 16:24:17
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I'm not sure what you are asking? If you now have a card that is PCI, there are no PCI/PCIeX1 adapters. You will need a new PCIeX1 card.
PCIeX1 is the new industry standard, it's not a Dell only interface. Some new motherboards still have a PCI slot on them but most new PC's from "name" PC vendors such as Dell have done away with the PCI slot. Just as PCIeX16 has replaced AGP and PCI for Video Card slots. Also, the old Serial and Parallel ports are gone from new PC's.
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Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/22 16:45:30
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Well that answers my question. I need a new interface.. What should I be looking at ? USB or firewire ? Do these new interfaces have an ad/da converter in them as well ? I'd like to keep the cost below $700 in total, or thereabouts. Any suggestions ?
post edited by Brad - 2011/10/22 18:32:27
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fireberd
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/22 19:12:33
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The 8300 does not have Firewire. You would need to install a PCIeX1 Firewire card (and one that has a T.I. Firewire chipset). It does have two USB 3.0 ports (front and back).
If you don't want a PCIeX1 interface card, USB may be the best option without buying extra hardware such as the mentioned Firewire I/O card.
(I do a lot of support on the Dell Community user support forum, the reason I have some info on the 8300).
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Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/23 12:31:21
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Thanks Fireberd,
Is there an advantage to firewire over USB ? I was looking at an M-Audio Profire 2626 for $599. Unless a USB unit would be better. Where should I get this PCIeX1 to firewire TI chipset card ? I see all kinds with all kinds of prices. Even Dell sells them. But then again so does Radio Shack.. I assume it's real easy to click that kind of thing in place.
Thanks again for all your help.
Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/23 16:59:13
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a lot of positive comments around here about the roland octa-capture.
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Brad
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/24 01:40:34
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I'll look into that.. Thanks.
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fireberd
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Re:Windows 7 and my Dakota card
2011/10/24 06:46:07
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A PCIeX1 card installs just like the old PCI cards, just a smaller connector. All Firewire cards are not the same - for audio recording equipment you need one that has a T.I. chipset. Many Firewire connected devices use DICE or DICE II Firewire chipsets internally and almost (not all but almost) anything but a T.I. chipset port in the PC will not work correctly or reliably. The Dell users manual is pre installed on your PC. But, if you can't find it, HERE is the Dell on line service manual which details how to remove/install PCIe cards.
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