New Kid v2 vs. X1e?

Has anyone else checked this out?

http://www.proaudio.com/p....php?products_id=10406

I'm sure this is part of the Melodyne threads, but I haven't read them... yet...

Studio One v2

It sounds as tho they've added a number of things Sonar has had for ages as well as one or two twists of their own?

Anyone out there get a hands on yet?

Keni

I don't really use melodyne and the likes - the most crucial one for me would be their take on swipe comping. Once you've worked with that, there's just no going back. And Cakewalk missed an opportunity to catch up early on this w/ X1. Logic has had it first, now Cubase has it and Studio One has it.

Their new version of the Freeze looks promising. And clip based fx. These 2 new features, along with swipe comp, make it an absolutely worthy contender IMHO.

Interesting.  I was about to pop for Melodyne anyway so for a few bucks more I can have another DAW.

It didn't mention 64 bit operating systems specifically.  There was a reason that I didn't consider the program last year.  Maybe that was it.

Or just install the 32 bit version, or BOTH 32 and 64 bit versions !!

PenguiN42

Mod Bod


Interesting.  I was about to pop for Melodyne anyway so for a few bucks more I can have another DAW.

It didn't mention 64 bit operating systems specifically.  There was a reason that I didn't consider the program last year.  Maybe that was it.

Just to note, the Studio One v2 Pro comes with Melodyne Essential, not the fancier packages (though you can upgrade to them and the integration will still work).

And it works with 64-bit but there's no integrated bitbridge, you'll have to use jbridge (or just not use 32-bit plugins)

Thanks for the info.
 

Surprised the thread lasted as long as it did upstairs.  I wish these would be required reading for the marketing department.

PenguiN42

Mod Bod


Interesting.  I was about to pop for Melodyne anyway so for a few bucks more I can have another DAW.

It didn't mention 64 bit operating systems specifically.  There was a reason that I didn't consider the program last year.  Maybe that was it.

Just to note, the Studio One v2 Pro comes with Melodyne Essential, not the fancier packages (though you can upgrade to them and the integration will still work).

And it works with 64-bit but there's no integrated bitbridge, you'll have to use jbridge (or just not use 32-bit plugins)

Hmmm...

In their' info they claim that it invisibly handles 32/64bit plugins.... Is that wrong?

Keni

Mod Bod

Rain


I don't really use melodyne and the likes - the most crucial one for me would be their take on swipe comping. Once you've worked with that, there's just no going back. And Cakewalk missed an opportunity to catch up early on this w/ X1. Logic has had it first, now Cubase has it and Studio One has it.

Their new version of the Freeze looks promising. And clip based fx. These 2 new features, along with swipe comp, make it an absolutely worthy contender IMHO.

After working with Reaper, I found out that SONAR's comping workflow is pretty weak.  I need to try out the swipe comping to see if it is as intuitive as it looks.  I also need to check out the audio quantizing.  I've learned that you can definitely game a project so a video demo of beat detection works like a dream.  Put a little compression on a bass or guitar and delay the spike a little and it's a different story for sure.
 
I've got to say that as far as a beauty contest, Studio One gets 3rd runner up behind SONAR X1.  Goodness those are two homely GUIs.  The Track views and mixer views created by Reaper users are better.
 
But I have to say that the SONAR audio engine is strong and it's like a 4 wheel drive going through the mud and not much that I throw at it can stop it.

I can't speak for swipe in Studio One as I have yet to upgrade it, but I know first hand that it's flawless in Logic. I can only suppose that, based upon my experience with the previous version, if they put something in, it must work as advertised.


In terms of GUI looks, I'm not entirely happy with anything out there, even the most customizable ones. Sonar's latest version really doesn't appeal to me. I strongly dislike the color blue for some reason, so I'd have to get pass that w/ S1. Logic in its current incarnation is a sea of grey - I much preferred earlier versions, w/ more contrast. Anyway, that never kept me from using them...


I often thought that Sonar had one of the most solid engine in terms of how many tracks and plug-ins it allowed me to use compared to others. Not using it on the same machine makes it harder for me to compare it w/ other similar applications these days.


Nevertheless, my basic projects haven't changed that much, and if anything, faster CPUs, additional RAM and new technologies like freeze have made it relatively easier than it was to handle such projects, so on my end, what used to be an argument in favor of Sonar isn't really of much importance anymore, while the gapping audio engine has become something I see less reasons to deal with.


In regards to the marketing department... I think that for some reason, their priorities aren't necessarily coinciding w/ those of the user base, even though I'm sure they'd like to please everyone. 


Still, where the StudioOne development teams appear like a dynamic bunch supported by an aggressive marketing department, Cakewalk almost look like they're struggling to meet the financial results expected by Roland, with very little help from them. Of course, that's only an impression.