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October 18, 11 6:09 PM (permalink)

Studio 1 - 2

Just watched a web presentation on studio 1 versiion 2. It looks really nice and very much like X1. Going to D/L the demo. Anyone using it care to compare the top of the line pro package with X1 producer? I will get the demo but it won't have all the plugs etc. AFAIK.

I may expand into a new product after this last year of stuttering workflow.

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 18, 11 6:14 PM (permalink)
    Jeff Evans has been learning the details of Studio One.

    Perhaps send him a PM.


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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 18, 11 7:37 PM (permalink)
    Thanks Mike.

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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 18, 11 8:03 PM (permalink)
    I have not yet upgraded it so I can't compare it to X1, but I can tell you this much, just from watching the webinars - the most important Logic features which made it harder for me to consider going back to PC/Sonar when I'd get back home are now included in Studio One - which I can run on both platforms.    

    The Sonar feature I missed the most in Logic (the way Sonar deals w/ the freeze function) look like it's even better in Studio One than in both Sonar and Logic.

    And it also now offers some welcome additions, like the narrow mixer, convolution reverb, proper audio groove extraction and impulse response tools.

    To top it all, it offers integrated mastering solutions and it has something Cakewalk never was able to offer - gapless audio engine. I don't really believe that those gaps are an acceptable thing in a pro audio application in 2011. It's just like a sign of Cakewalk's priorities not being exactly focused where I'd like to see them.

    So the choice of a solution for my PC based workstation is getting clearer - Studio One is like a Sonar X1 that would have lived up to the hype, minus the load of plug-ins, most of which I'd never use anyway, and then with a lot of the features I dig in Logic.

    Judging from version 1, those bundled plug-ins are excellent, though the virtual instruments aren't really great.

    It's really getting hard for me to seriously consider Sonar as a solution, in view of the competition. X1 was all about skylight, a GUI that is essentially the same as Studio One and Logic - and these perform better, plus they offer things that are now becoming standards like swipe comping. Cakewalk really missed an opportunity to catch up on this w/ X1.

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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 18, 11 8:50 PM (permalink)

    Cakewalk really missed an opportunity to catch up on this w/ X1.


    A big +1

    I'm using the gapless audio and swipe comping in Reason 6 now before Rewiring into Sonar.

    As an existing Sonar user a £180 upgrade to Sonar X1E offers me precious little in real terms over Producer 8.5 yet an £80 upgrade to S1 Producer v2 from Artist V1 which cost me about £15 originally would give me 64 bit Rewire, VST 3 support and ARA capability today.

    For £60 more than my Sonar upgrade path I get the full shilling S1 Pro V2 inc. Melodyne essentials and some REAL increase in functionality.
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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 18, 11 8:59 PM (permalink)
    It all seems tooooooo good to be true. S1, that is.
    Can it really BE?


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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 18, 11 9:02 PM (permalink)
    timidi


    It all seems tooooooo good to be true. S1, that is.
    Can it really BE?


    The answer...


    Just for the three things I mentioned for the price of Expanded and a module alone?

    I know what my answer is, and it isn't 'will I be able to afford the bundle that includes Z3ta 2?' either.
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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 19, 11 3:24 AM (permalink)
    timidi


    It all seems tooooooo good to be true. S1, that is.
    Can it really BE?


    The answer...

    The answer, mine at least, is that I don't need Studio One and here I am, after two 2 brilliant marketing maneuvers which first made me buy Artist and then the upgrade to Pro, seriously considering the upgrade to version 2.


    Furthermore, this new version took care of the few shortcomings which prevented me from considering actually working w/ it. And then some. I'm not looking for a new DAW, at least not on my Mac, but I keep this in my pocket, just in case. Still, I can see myself working with it and building some projects, just for the fun of it. There's something about working with an application that just runs flawlessly... lol


    In that same period of time, I went from being a long time Sonar user to having somewhat lost my interest in their product as well as my enthusiasm for future versions. X1 wasn't for me when it came out. And the time spent away only re-inforced that.


    I used to recommend Sonar and I've recruited quite a few friends who were getting into digital audio to join the camp.  X1 changed that. Obviously, I couldn't help them with it because I don't use it, but my "faith" in the product line just isn't there.  

    Incidentally, I've re-installed my PC in the studio last week, just for fun. I've considered installing the X1 demo, but I just couldn't bring myself to. Though the new skylight interface has advantages, it's basically very similar to S1. If the gapping engine under the hood hasn't changed, all that it leaves is a couple of plug-ins, similar to some of the ones I have in my plug-in folder and which I rarely use. 

    So beside some irrational bound I may have felt toward my long time favorite sequencer, all the pros were on the other side. And that was before S1 version 2 came out with those new features. This pretty much puts the last nail in the coffin.

    This whole X1 experience somehow reminds me of when MySpace felt the heat and started to try to keep up w/ Facebook, making some odd series of radical changes which, in retrospective, only accelerated their fall. I sincerely hope it works better for Cake than it did for MySpace. 



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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 19, 11 10:48 AM (permalink)

    I sincerely hope it works better for Cake than it did for MySpace.  



    Cakewalk is a social networking tool now?
    I'm confused.
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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 19, 11 11:11 AM (permalink)
    I spent most of last night playing around in it...took most of the afternoon downloading the thing. lol.

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:Studio 1 - 2 October 19, 11 11:17 AM (permalink)
    bapu




    Cakewalk is a social networking tool now?
    I'm confused.


    I thought I was a social networking tool once.  It turns out I was only partially right.
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