ProjectM
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PCI SSD With Sonar?
Hey! I just stumbled upone a couple of reviews of this technology: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid_state_drives/pci-e_solid_state_drives ... and must say this looks promising! The reviewers were out of their minds over the performance with these disks and recomend them for heavy users, like musicians, movie makers, graphics etc. They are SSD's up to 960GB!! IMO, that's actually usefull! The price on the other hand is.... And they are installed in a PCIe slot. Has anyone tried these? I'm not thinking about "normal" SSD disks, but these PCIe ones. 480GB is approx 2000 USD - expensive - but with the level of performance, the storage capacity and the security of non moving parts, and probably endurance, sure looks interesting... 
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/21 06:11:34
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The 960Gb retail for about £2.5K here in the UK, so that's still about 40 times more expensive than a regular HDD
They're going to have to drop in price a lot before this technology becomes a viable alternative for the vast majority of us.
But it's an interesting take on onboard storage
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ProjectM
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/21 06:23:31
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Yeah, the prices are insane! And they're still (here in Norway at least) quite more expensive per gigabyte than getting the same storage capacity in regular SSD harddrives. But you'd need 4 256GB SSD discs to get the same amount of storage. And it would be slower apparently. What I really like is, with the modern computer towers where inserting a PCI card is as easy as scratching ones behind, moving data between several studios would be easy and you get the increased performance gain. SSD is too expensive yet IMO, for very little storage capacity. We just got SSD disks in the studio machines at the post studio I work at (audio and video is on a network server) and twice I've called the computer geek complaining that the machine is broken right after I hit the power switch only to be proven a fool when the monitors comes to life. It's QUIET! And fast! But I can't imagine replacing the 3,5 terra bytes of storage I have in my main DAW with SSD discs. It would cost so, so much. I don't think I will take the plunge anytime soon but yes, it's very interesting
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/21 11:34:11
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You don't need a SSD that big do you. When you have a SSD (80GB) as OS drive. And 8 or 16GB RAM, the only thing that would speed up is the load of the song....
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/21 12:48:17
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The Vertex 3 SSDs (2.5" variety) sustain 512MB/Sec
The 120GB version is ~$210.
You don't need anywhere near that level of performance for streaming audio.
If you're trying to pull massive disk-streaming polyphony from the likes of Kontakt, SSD makes sense.
I can't see too many scenarios where the $2000 PCIe SSDs are necessary.
You can get 4 or the 120GB Vertex 3 units for well under $1000.
That's enough speed for even the most extreme disk-streaming scenarios (Hollywood Strings/Brass, etc).
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ProjectM
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/24 18:07:10
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wow! Never got an e-mail saying anyone replied to this after my last post  anyway - I see what you guys mean @Muziekschuur - 80 Gb for a system disk would be cool. Or a 120 or 256Gb one because I use more than 80Gb for my system - lot of reference material and rubbish I want to keep there on it. However, I wouldn't mind having SSDs sometime in the future for Audio, samples and video discs with little or no risk of hardware failure. @Jim - I wasn't really thinking about the performance, other than for as you say, perhaps streaming big libraries - which I do a lot. Not that my current HDDs seems to be any significant Bottleneck as far as I can tell. But I can't tell much about these things anyway. I just use this technology, I don't really understand or care about how it all work. I never tried to suggest that $2000 SSD were neccesary. I'm not made of money! I've already seen that price example of yours before posting my previous post. It's just really cool Nah, I was first and foremost thinking about the storage capacity in one unit in stead of having to spread my stuff over several disks because SSDs have way too few GB's for my use - and whatever performance gain I could get, noticeable or not, is always welcome. Not to mention a more quiet computer as I can cut back on the fans. Just amazed by the technology and what this may mean for the future. and I really liked the idea of the PCI sollution - or at least find it very interesting for taking in and out of a computer to take elsewhere. But I suppose large capacity external SSDs with USB3, Fireplug or whatever all this is called will arrive soon enough. I'm very much looking forward to SSDs in whatever form have huge capacity and become affordable for safety of my data, convenience - and the environment I suppose
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/25 13:58:40
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Fireplug or whatever all this is called ...
Thunderbolt Intel..
befor you buy a ssd i would google its name followd by ssd failure
rate, and see its stat's !!!
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ProjectM
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Re:PCI SSD With Sonar?
2011/10/25 15:18:52
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Yeah, I've heard about that. But apparently they are getting quite reliable these days. I won't do it for a while still, but it will happen in the future sometime;) Thunderbolt - there we have it ha ha 
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