Does a bounce degrade audio?

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2011/10/23 12:11:50 (permalink)

Does a bounce degrade audio?

If you bounce audio to clips or, bounce audio to tracks, does this degrade any of the recorded parts? 
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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/23 12:16:36 (permalink)
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    If you bounce audio to clips or, bounce audio to tracks, does this degrade any of the recorded parts? 

    It's not supposed to!
     
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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/23 12:22:27 (permalink)
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    Boogit


    If you bounce audio to clips or, bounce audio to tracks, does this degrade any of the recorded parts? 

    It's not supposed to!
     
    Brian

    Let me go further -
     
    The audio you hear is created mathematically by your digital converters on your audio capturing device.  Making exact copies of this should be as simple as making copies of a Word document.  Effects are also digitally created, and they perform mathematical equations to the digital data to get the sound they are after.
    So, the sound (theoretically) cannot be degraded in the process (not talking bit depth type things here either) because it doesn't exist until it is played.
    Make any sense?
     
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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/23 12:23:15 (permalink)
    I could see having a problem if you had one of those soundcards with its own effects like EAX turned on, but otherwise, I agree, it's not supposed to.

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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/23 12:46:24 (permalink)
    The only degradation you would see is if changing bit depth, that is the purpose of dithering to minimise distortion, but dithering adds it's own noise albeit at a low level. Mixing audio by Roey Izahki has some examples on the accompanying DVD plus an in depth explanation if you have that book.

    So as long as the bit depth is the same you don't need to dither and there should be no degradation, assuming you are not including effects in the process.
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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/23 19:39:07 (permalink)
    Sometimes when bounce multiple tracks (clips if you like), you may hear parts of one track more than others. This can be due to numerous things either in the tracks or in the bounce conversion. Slight volume differences, miniscule timing differences, bit collisons. Yes that's what I said. Bouncing is actually mixing to a very large degree. That's why a lot of engineers like to "mix-bounce" tracks down in real time and adjust for the problems. They may be many, they may be few.

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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/23 21:10:54 (permalink)
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     Slight volume differences, miniscule timing differences. <snip>
     
     
     
    Yes and positively yes. Timing differences can happen with both soft synths and snapped transient audio tracks.

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    Re:Does a bounce degrade audio? 2011/10/24 21:31:34 (permalink)
    generally "no" BUT that's a loaded question.. if you have issues with the original source material (of you've added stuff e.g. fx that trash it )  then it won't get magically fixed.

    there are variables that come into that.. e.g. the samples of stuff your using in say a sampler are 24 bit and your using 16 bit as your choice..  rather than treating everything as 24 bit and then dithering later.



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