BillyGareth
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Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
Hi ,
Just bough MC6 and working it all out.
When I drag a pattern from Studio Instruments Drums, bass, piano etc into a softsynth track in MC6 it doesn't playback correctly.
It sounds fine in SI when previewing but not in MC6.
It appears in the track view Ok and in piano roll view seems to show the corect entries but in playback in seems to drop notes or only play every third note.
All other playback functions or fine.
Does the same thing in Sonar
I am running wdm drivers. Should I switch to ASIO or is this my sound card
Sound card is onboard sound.
Have got an m-audio Fastrack coming for external recording
Thanks,
Billy
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/10/23 21:30:33
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if you're using your onboard soundcard until your fasttrack arrives, then ASIO will not work. however, try using MME and adjusting your latency slider to the 'FAST side.
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/17 21:06:34
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Thanks gotit. Sorry about the late reply. Haven't had much time to play!
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/17 21:30:16
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the onboard soundcard will cause problems..... just hang on a few days until the fastrack arrives.
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/17 23:31:18
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Got the fasttrack and running through ASIO now although having with some things playing through the soundcard and others through the FT even though I have set the FT as the default output in Pref
Also noted that MIDI channels will only playback through the onboard sound and even the MIDI track properties does not give the FT as an output option
Billy
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/18 07:50:19
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You should be able to select the FT as the default playback device for everything...audio and midi out.
I'm not in the DAW but you select that in the audio preferences I believe.
Run the profiler and the FT should be available for playback for both.
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/18 08:56:07
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BillyGareth
Got the fasttrack and running through ASIO now although having with some things playing through the soundcard and others through the FT even though I have set the FT as the default output in Pref
Also noted that MIDI channels will only playback through the onboard sound and even the MIDI track properties does not give the FT as an output option
Billy
if you have your driver mode set to ASIO then there should be no option for the onboard soundcard to show up at all. it does not have ASIO drivers unless you installed ASIO4ALL on your system. if you did that, uninstall it. MIDI track properties only allow outputs you have selected. in MC6, press "P" on the computer keyboard. that will bring up the preferences window. now go to MIDI>DEVICES then select the FT as INPUT and/or OUTPUT. however, you only want to select it as OUTPUT if you really want to send MIDI back out TO the keyboard (you'll be hearing the sound of that MIDI track playing from the keyboard, not from the FT).
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/18 10:38:54
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MIDI tracks will play through the onboard sound card if you're using the sound card's MIDI synth, Microsoft's GS Wavetable synth. Which I didn't think would be available when using ASIO drivers.
Insert a soft synth and change the MIDI track outputs to that soft synth.
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/18 22:41:22
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Thanks heaps everyone for your help thus far.
Yes I did have ASIO4All installed but removed it. No sign of it anywhere now.
Everything now plays back through the FT except manually created midi tracks. I still have only Wavetable synth or USB Midi. FT it not given as an option.
Even if I uncheck one of the options for output and it prompts me to assign a new device, there is nothing in the drop down list.
Midi outputs still listed as
Ms GS Wavetable Synth
USB Midi
When I was trying to get my MIDI to USB cable working I did install Any further ideas? MIDI-OX and after that I was able to get MIDI in out into MC6. Midi-OX also shows under the utilities manager in C6 even after I have uninstalled it.
Is it possbile that that midi-ox functions in a similar way to ASIO4ALL by using the onboard sound?
Thanks in advance.
Billy
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/18 23:46:27
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Do you have a MIDI keyboard connected to the FT? If you do not, then you don't need a MIDI out.
post edited by 57Gregy - 2011/11/19 10:04:02
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BillyGareth
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/19 05:45:56
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No it is a Midi to USb connection to the PC. Ft has no provision to conenct MIDI to it
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/19 09:32:51
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It sounds like ( as Greg Pointed out ) you have the Ms GS Wavetable Synth selected for your Midi. This can only be played by the internal sound card. You will need to change these midi tracks to use TTS-1 ( or another GM synth ).
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/19 09:34:50
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It sounds like ( as Greg Pointed out ) you have the Ms GS Wavetable Synth selected for your Midi. This can only be played by the internal sound card. You will need to change these midi tracks to use TTS-1 ( or another GM synth ). If you are unfamiliar with using soft synths, Herb (Guitar Hacker) has a nice write at his web-site.
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/19 09:51:24
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BillyGareth
No it is a Midi to USb connection to the PC. Ft has no provision to conenct MIDI to it
Billy
then the FT will not show up in the MIDI devices. you should, however, see a USB device in the MIDI options. if you don't see that, then the USB drivers for the USB cable/device you have connecting your keyboard is not installed correctly. is this a USB/MIDI cable that you plug into the MIDI ports of the keyboard, or is this a standard USB cable that plugs into a USB port on the keyboard. if you have a standard USB cable plugging into the keyboard, then you need the drivers for THAT MODEL keyboard (for example, if you have a Yamaha PSR-295, it has a USB port on it, so you use a standard USB cable to connect it to the computer, but before it will work, you have to load drivers on the computer for the yamaha keyboard). if you have a USB/MIDI cable that plugs into MIDI ports and then USB to the computer, then whatever MODEL/BRAND USB/MIDI cable that is needs to have drivers installed. (for example if you have like an m-audio UNO USB cable, you need to load the drivers for it)
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/11/19 10:12:27
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Right.
The MIDI track's output should be to a software synthesizer if you don't want to hear the Wavetable sounds through the computer's speakers, or to the keyboard (USB device) if you want to hear the keyboard's sounds. But then you'll have the keyboard sounds emanating from the keyboard's speakers instead of... whatever the FT's plugged into. Plug the keyboard's audio output into the FT. I use a small mixer instead of plugging the keyboard into the interface and monitor everything from the mixer.
The soft synth's audio output is then sent to the FT, prefereably to a bus first, but eventually to the FT.
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Re:Problems with Studio Instrument patterns in Music Creator 6
2011/12/03 05:52:15
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Thanks Folks, Just getting back to this now.
The keyboard is connected via a midi to USB cable
The only MIDI outputs that show in Preferences are Wavtable GS and USB midi if the keyboard is connected.
By setting the individual midi channel to output to Cakewalk sound centre it seem to be now getting midi playback via the Fast Track
Many thanks all for your help!
Billy
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