trimph1
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Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
This question stems from a discussion over at KvR about developers being requested by some customers about renting their software. I know that for myself, if I have the cash on hand I would just buy the thing outright but it does appear that some seem willing to actually rent the thing..until they could actually buy it...this seems a little odd to me. What do you think of this idea? Would it work? What size firm do you think could do this? I know that apparently a few do this...so what is your take?
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 12:23:50
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I am not interested in renting software as I never know when I am going to use it because of my schedule. I think it might be a good concept for some people though.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 12:59:23
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I just wonder how thins would work practically. To use even rented software it would have to be fully functional I assume. So I rent the product, download and install it, pay my first months rent - then disappear with a fully functional piece of software for only a months rental payment! Seems prone with problems and could lead to even more intrusive auhtorization procedures - check to see if registered for instance every time you log on..........I really can't even think about that!!!! Nigel
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 13:18:54
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It does present some interesting possibilities. Instead of purchasing expensive sound libraries (much of which is never utilized) I could pick out the exact samples I need for each project. It would be nice to compare/use some high end plug-ins without purchasing each one. from what I've been reading 'cloud computing' is coming down the road; and if that's the case the individual user won't have to worry about operating systems, installing plug-ins, driver conflicts, etc; This will all be handled by the site you connect to. It might be interesting to know if the cakewalk staff sees a day when and if this will happen
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 14:13:13
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So I rent the product, download and install it, pay my first months rent - then disappear with a fully functional piece of software for only a months rental payment! The way it would work is vendors would create a special version of the software similar to a time-limited demo. After the rental period, the software could remain in place on your disk along with its related registry settings, presets and data files so that if you ever needed to rework an old project that used the plugin it would be a simple process of re-authorizing it.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 14:42:13
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Only if it were rent to own and wouldn't exceed the purchase price at time of agreement.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 15:20:58
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Didn't they try that with Samplitude a few years ago? Not sure how it worked out for them. For my own needs, it wouldn't work. I usually work on projects for way too long, sometimes getting back to them after months. That's one of the reasons why I like to have my own set-up. I can see how it could be interesting when working on specific projects, with a deadline - much like renting hardware for a few sessions. I took a similar approach w/ the 30 days demo for Duende, using it to complete a version of a particular project.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 15:27:49
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Not a cool idea for me. Masterwriter has a monthly program where you lease it for as long as you need it.... IDK exactly how that works to keep it working on your computer. I would assume you need some sort of internet connect that's active and it checks the status before it opens.... I would do that IF, and only if I was wanting to try something out before sinking money into it.... But for example, Masterwriter has a 30 day free demo IIRC..... with most features active during that trial...... Yeah put me in the "I'd rather buy it" camp.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 15:38:23
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IQS has some sort of plan called the Good Faith Agreement, allowing you to get the software and make monthly payments. That's something I'd be more likely to use than just renting for a limited time.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 16:00:00
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IQS has some sort of plan called the Good Faith Agreement, allowing you to get the software and make monthly payments. That's something I'd be more likely to use than just renting for a limited time. Yeah, I agree... The reason IQS went this direction is that SAW Studio is expensive (relative to other choices). If a DAW app stays in the $400-$600 range for the flagship product, I'd rather just purchase it. I wouldn't want to have to rent all my software/plugins... that would be a major PITA with authorizations.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 16:16:17
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Exactly. Those Duende plug-ins I would have already purchased if SSL had a similar option. Unfortunately, their least expensive bundle includes only two plug-ins and these wouldn't necessarily be the first I'd pick, and the individual one are a bit too expensive for the moment, so I'm stalling...
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 16:57:20
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Isn't that what we already do? We don't own SONAR - just have access to it. We can't sell it, which is surely one of the definations of "own." And every year we pay a little more to keep it upgraded. It is renting in all but name. @
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 17:11:37
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From what I have seen of this practice (Adobe), the rental cost is high enough that you could have bought the product for what you paid in rent for 6 months. If you had a quick one-off project that you only need the software for a couple of months, it might make sense, but for longer term use, I think buying outright is the way to go. People who have to go through the learning curve on a piece of software probably don't gain anything by renting, either, unless they are only interested in a trial period that's longer than normal. I don't see the advantage of it, myself, especially if one is in it for the long haul.
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trimph1
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 18:47:46
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I knew that adobe has that program..but, like you mentioned I would be more to buy the thing outright. I'm thinking that the overhead for something like this..the registrations, any updates, et cetera would be a real issue in some ways as well.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/24 20:33:04
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Masterwriter is a monthly fee program but I wouldn't be interested in renting host software. J
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/25 02:56:04
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bitflipper The way it would work is vendors would create a special version of the software similar to a time-limited demo. After the rental period, the software could remain in place on your disk along with its related registry settings, presets and data files so that if you ever needed to rework an old project that used the plugin it would be a simple process of re-authorizing it. Exactly, I did exactly this with some disk partitioning software, The name escapes me, wanted to use it once, so I paid a few bucks for a 10 day license. In that situation it was the ideal solution.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/25 09:18:02
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That's a case where renting could be an option - utilities that you use for a one-time thing. Wondering... What if you rent a piece of software w/ a few major bugs? You rent it expecting it to work now, so the developer can't justify themselves by telling you there's a bugfix coming down the pipes.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/25 09:23:32
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mmmm..that would be interesting. They would have to extend the period would they not? At least, I hope they would if that were the case.
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
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Re:Question...How Many Of You Would Rent The Software You Are Using To Produce Your Music?
2011/10/25 12:22:05
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Rain good point - and what if it took some time to correct said bugs - all sounds to be getting messy to me!!!! I think I agree with you about software you perhaps only need to use for a short period of time; probably makes some sense. But otherwise, as Jim says, the authorization problems would probably drive you mad!! - as I have just changed to a new windows 7 Sonar X1 64bit system from Jim and even though Jim loaded some of my software, it has taken me a couple of weeks to download latest versions, load and authorize the rest - not something I will want to do again any time soon!!!!!!!!!!! Nigel
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