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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Point taken. I was referring to the 8.5 behaviour as being incorrect where opening the view cleared the selection. That is pretty definitively a bug and we wouldnt want to revert that behavior since it causes other confusion - imagine loading a screen set containing the prv and your selection is magically cleared. Bad.

The desire to double click to open a view however, is valid. Perhaps we need a behavior where double click is treated specially to open but not select. To the OP today just use Alt-3 to open the PRV once you have an active track. That opens the view but doesn't select anything.

I think many of us would very much welcome that change.  I suspect this would be fairly welcomed by most if not all.

It's these little things that really do make a difference in the flow of a session -- whether it be just recording and minor editing or some serious editing.  Less is more, as they say.  So less clicks, less unnecessary gesturing, etc, does make a difference.

And less havin to yell "Godfrey Daniels!!"  at the top of yor lungs when that loud noise comes out of yor speakers.
 
 

But if i have a track divided in several clips, it would be good, to open the clip i want to edit in PRV and the Now Time automatically go to the position of the first note on that clip, that way it wouldn't be necessary to highlight the notes of the selected clip.

Counting Coup


Right. So what's happening is the track is already selected and by hitting anywhere except the top left, you're effectively de-highlighting that track. hence, you have the notes un-highlighted once you are in its PRV. 
Let's have the old behaviour back and be done with all this!
I'm with you Billy. Have we enough manpower to occupy somewhere?
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FastBikerBoy


I think you need to be careful what you wish for. I understand that the current behaviour is annoying but if I understand the proposal correctly the suggestion is that a selected clip, doesn't have the notes inside it selected.

Make it an option sure but not compulsory, a selected clip with the data in it not selected will be just as confusing as the present confusion. It doesn't take much to confuse me.

I think most would be ok with an "option".  I would.

But, X1 (like some other hosts) uses "positioning" to determine actions.  Clicking at the top of a clip has a different set of actions than clicking on the bottom of a clip, as you know.   So I think a similar approach (in lieu of an outright option) could be implemented.

Example:  dbl clicking the top of a clip brings it into and opens the PRV with the notes unselected.
                  dlb clicking the bottom would bring it into and open the PRV with the notes selected.

But, regardless of the method, having the option would be welcomed.

wayofmind


Wow. Shocked to see so much hate for Sonar's behavior on the subject. I utilize this "problem" in my workflow quite often. My midi tracks are often cut up into different clips, and during the writing process I often want to hear a clip in a different octave or copy those notes to a different octave. This "problem" you guys are talking about helps me do that incredibly quickly. I use it a lot.

wayofmind


Yes, I do agree it would be nice to have the option to switch it on or off. But imagine composing - you have different instrument sections split up into different divisis. Dozens of midi tracks. You will often want instruments playing another instrument's line in a different octave. Alto flutes, play along with Violin I divisi - one octave up - Cellos two octaves down... This is a common occurrence for me and I would expect with a good number of composers. But I agree, if it's not intuitive for you, you should be able to turn it off. I'm just pointing out why it may have been implemented purposefully.