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Stupid metronome.....please help!!
Hi...I'm new to recording and having some trouble. I am in the 113th Army Band at Fort Knox, KY and am using Sonar X1 Producer. I recorded a concert a week or so ago with no issues and it sounded great. Today we recorded some stuff in our band hall and for whatever reason the metronome is going through all the recordings. I have searched and have found nothing that worked. I have since turned off the playback metronome, the recording metronome, and anything else I could find to turn off in that sense. No luck.
Am I going to have to rerecord all of these tracks? Or is there something else I can do? I'm very frustrated...ugh.
Eddie
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brundlefly
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 13:51:12
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If the metronome is actually recorded on the track(s), that could only happen because the interface is recording from its output rather than its input. This doesn't happen easily by mistake with most interfaces except cheap multimedia soundcards that default the recording source to "What U Hear" or "Stereo Mix" or something similar, rather than Mic or Line In.
Can you see the metronome click in the displayed waveform, or hear it of you play the raw file back in a basic audio player?
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 13:55:06
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I had a session where, for some reason, I couldn't shut off the metronome audio even though I had the 'metronome during playback' disabled. We were in a rush so I couldn't spend time figuring out what was really wrong. My quick fix was to go into the metronome setup page and route the metronome output to either "none" or an output of the audio interface that wasn't connected to anything.
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srt4eh
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 13:55:53
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I can see it click in the waveform and I hear it in the raw file. If it matters...I'm using an Allen & Heath ZED-22FX board connected to my laptop.
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srt4eh
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 13:56:54
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Rick O Shay
I had a session where, for some reason, I couldn't shut off the metronome audio even though I had the 'metronome during playback' disabled. We were in a rush so I couldn't spend time figuring out what was really wrong. My quick fix was to go into the metronome setup page and route the metronome output to either "none" or an output of the audio interface that wasn't connected to anything.
I did that as well....still hearing it loud and clear....
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 14:01:56
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srt4eh
I can see it click in the waveform and I hear it in the raw file. If it matters...I'm using an Allen & Heath ZED-22FX board connected to my laptop.
If you can see it in the waveform, somehow you've recorded it and getting rid of it is going to be difficult if not impossible. AFAIK it's hard to record the metronome accidentally. I think there was a post a while back where someone wanted to record it and couldn't. Not that it's going to make you feel any better...............
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srt4eh
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 14:06:04
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I was reading that as well....I have no idea how I did it. Sigh....
Ok...so I see where my error was....when I started my new project "Metronome during Record" was automatically turned on and I didn't bother checking. I started a new project just now and saw that is how it is setup...and I recorded and it's in there loud and clear. So now is there any way to go back in time or are these recordings trash?
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 14:08:38
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srt4eh
I can see it click in the waveform and I hear it in the raw file. If it matters...I'm using an Allen & Heath ZED-22FX board connected to my laptop.
If you can see it in the waveform, somehow you've recorded it and getting rid of it is going to be difficult if not impossible. AFAIK it's hard to record the metronome accidentally. I think there was a post a while back where someone wanted to record it and couldn't. Not that it's going to make you feel any better...............
That's right. It doesn't happen easily. SONAR cannot do it internally, no how, no way. It has to happen in the interface (or external mixer), either by an analog loopback path, or a setting in the software mixer that does a digital loopback of output to input.
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 14:15:06
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I might be possible to fix it by deliberately re-recording the metronome by itself , inverting the track, and bouncing it together with musical track(s) to null out the click. You just have to get the timing and levels exactly right.
You can do this by checking for nulling in real-time, and nudging the metronome clip and tweaking levels as necessary, but if everything is set up consistent with the original session, none of that should be necessary. And if it was a digital loopback, it should be possible to null the click perfectly without affecting the rest of the audio.
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 14:18:54
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brundlefly
I might be possible to fix it by deliberately re-recording the metronome by itself , inverting the track, and bouncing it together with musical track(s) to null out the click. You just have to get the timing and levels exactly right.
You can do this by checking for nulling in real-time, and nudging the metronome clip and tweaking levels as necessary, but if everything is set up consistent with the original session, none of that should be necessary. And if it was a digital loopback, it should be possible to null the click perfectly without affecting the rest of the audio.
Um...wow.....that is above my pay grade. lol. I don't know if I'll be able to do that with my limited experience but I can give it a shot. Thanks
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 14:31:11
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I might be possible to fix it by deliberately re-recording the metronome by itself , inverting the track, and bouncing it together with musical track(s) to null out the click. You just have to get the timing and levels exactly right.
You can do this by checking for nulling in real-time, and nudging the metronome clip and tweaking levels as necessary, but if everything is set up consistent with the original session, none of that should be necessary. And if it was a digital loopback, it should be possible to null the click perfectly without affecting the rest of the audio.
Now that's what I call smart thinking brundlefly. Us untalented types would never have thought of that.. 
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 15:32:09
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+1 fast bike] (double space)like brundlefly already said, the nudging, etc shouldn't be necessary since the metronome counts at the same exact time and volume consistently. if this phase-flip technique works, it shouldn't be very hard to do. good luck.
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 15:44:58
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 OP PMed me he figured out what routing caused the 'nome to be recorded so he can avoid it in the future, and is working on recording the the "inversion" track. Will let you know how it goes.
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 15:45:33
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Make sure metronome during playback is not checked
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Re:Stupid metronome.....please help!!
2011/10/26 15:48:32
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Make sure metronome during playback is not checked He already figured out it got baked in at the time of recording.
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