True pianos cakewalk message in Xpanded 64 bit **SOLVED**

I just installed X1 Expanded both 32 bit and 64 bit versions.

When I try to open an instance of True Pianos in the 64 bit version, it says "This True Pianos Edition only works with Cakewalk. 
Click this box to purchase a full version.


Hmm... This is Cakewalk Sonar X1 Expanded 64 bit version.

The True Pianos opens fine in the 32 bit version...

Ajnybody have this problem?

Lance

Lanceindastudio


Im thinking maybe becasue my Expanded serial and password si different than X1 serial and password, Tru Pianos has an issue in 64 bit or something... weird-

Like I said, it works fine in X1 Expanded 32 bit

Lance

Which order did you install?  I'm thinking out loud here - but maybe if the 32bit install was last, that's why it won't see it in the 64bit?

Just a thought - though I could be way off base lol

Aha, something I haven't tried yet.

I only just installed X1-32 after getting Expanded, and haven't tried inserting True Piano in either.
I don't typically use the True Piano plug, although I have done in the past.

I'll be back at my DAW in a couple of hours, so I'll give it a whirl and let you know what happens.


Cheers - Cliff

So am I understanding correctly that you don't have the x64 DLL in Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins?

Sounds like it's a problem with bridging the 32-bit DLL, whether with JBridge or Bitbridge. If you can get the x64 DLL installed, I'm thinking that might fix it, since the 32-bit version runs okay in 32-bit Expanded.

But I have the full TruePianos so I can't check for you.

I think that one is 32 bit only maybe-

Possibly, but that would surprise me. I'm thinking it's the bridging "server" app that's loading the plug, and the DLL wants only to be loaded by SONARPDR.EXE directly. And that would necessitate having a native x64 DLL for SONAR x64.

Hmm even though I have unchecked load with jbridge, every time I load Tru pianos 64 bit, I can see a jbridge wrapper appear in the 64 bit true pianos folder under the real 64 bit dll.... 

Weird

Glad you got it sorted Lance,

I just got in, fired up the DAW and loaded True Piano and jumped on here to see you've got success.


Cheers - Cliff

Hi Lance,

yes I do have jbridge installed, but I haven't used it in a while.
I've left it installed on the PC though.

The reason I bought jbridge was trouble with recording automation in 64bit Sonar, of a 32bit Plug in bitbridge.
I went through most of the VST instruments I had installed at the time, and found the same issue with everything I tested.
Under bitbridge, automation of the 32bit plug in Sonar 64 was hopeless - it would record, but just a few nodes with
huge gaps. It was rough as guts !.
Under jbridge on the 64bit DAW, automation of the 32bit plugs seems fine - and I tested quite a few.
I found this the same for both X1 and 8.5.3

And of course, recording automation of a native 64bit plug in Sonar 64bit just worked like it should.

It was RealGuitar that I was using when I came across the issue, so I only ever jbridged that one VST.

Most of the plugs including RealGuitar are now 64bit, so I haven't needed to use jbridge. Although just taking a look, theres all
the IK stuff I have and one or two of NI's still 32bit only.

I don't know why our installations would behave differently though. Maybe the order we installed things, or what was jbridge wrapped ?
Dunno ?.

But things are definitely getting better in 64bit land. Not perfect, but it's good enough to call good.


I'm just having a wrestle with my DAW now - looks like I can crash it by enabling MIDI-Out on two VST instruments simultaneously.
Looks like one at a time works OK though, so it's not a show stopper :-)


Cheers - Cliff

Ok well I think the combo of True Pianos special cakewalk version and being jbridged is the culprit for my OP.

Uninstalling jbridge defintiely solved it.

cheers!

Lance

cliffr

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I'm just having a wrestle with my DAW now - looks like I can crash it by enabling MIDI-Out on two VST instruments simultaneously. Looks like one at a time works OK though, so it's not a show stopper :-)

In another thread, one of the CW people mentioned they know of a "MIDI OUT" bug, so you probably ran into that.   They're aware of it and obviously working out a fix at some point.

Thanks Billy,

I'll log a PR anyway, I've got specific recipe, and it's 100% repeatable.
The problem persists across 8.5.3 32+64bit, and X1 32+64bit.


Glad to see you're having a bit more joy with X1 now - it's a real *isser when you get stuck just trying to get something done.
Talk about kill the creative flow :-)
And I ain't got that much, that I can afford to waste it !.


Cheers - Cliff

Well we know the Bakers love a repeatable recipe for debugging bugs !  So good on that.

As for me - yep, X1 is now equally as stable as 8.5.3 for me.  It also is abundantly annoying at times LOL.   But as in many situations, I've learned to live with what it can do and use it in that regard.

I do hate when the creative groove gets interrupted, but I will say it is not happening too much these days with X1.  When it does happen (and it does!), well, let's just say I'm glad I'm not a violent person or my furniture would be fire wood LOL.