clickonce


  I've been a member over there for quite some time and visit the forums daily. I own S1v1 and have recently upgraded to v2. I'm not sure what forum you've been visiting with all this openness about upcoming features and time-frames. There was nothing aside from tons of speculation up until the day of the announcement.. which was really just days before the actual release. Perhaps some links to such discussions? From my perspective, their lack of communication about what was coming and when it would arrive has been my main gripe.. (at least until they actually released v2.. now I have other things to **** about). Hell there were mods ****ing at people for disclosing info on the boxes that GC had already started selling. Apparently GC did this a bit early and S1 wasn't happy about this info proliferating.. What a load of ****. I agree on their involvement in issues and support... but it's no different than any of the other major daws I've used. Grass is always greener, but in this case it seems the OP has simply heard of this beautiful neighboring yard, but has never actually ventured out to the fence. 
 

Anderton

pwal


link to the posts where "they do" contribute meaningfully to one of the topics i mentioned

64-bit ReWire: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013266
 
Forums are for discussions, and I can see why Cakewalk would rather make a broad announcement and addition to a knowledge base then just put a post in a forum, where it would probably get lost in the noise.
 
As to sharing planned road maps, don't hold your breath. No one knew Reason 6 would integrate Record until the official release. No one knows what's going to be in Live 9, Cubase 7, DP 8, the next version of Logic (assuming there is a next version of Logic), etc.
 
So why is this? Several reasons, none of which are to withhold info from their user base. And the following applies to the vast majority of software companies, not just Cakewalk, and not just the music business.
 
* They don't want to tip off competitors as to where they're going, especially enough in advance that someone else could do it before they do.
* The list of things companies WANT in a release is always much longer than what actually gets into a release. In many cases final decisions about what to include are left to the last minute...for example, there might be plans to add some feature but it ends up being too problematic so rather than delay the release, they go back to the drawing board and put it on the list for the next release.
* If a company announces something but it ends up not happening, users get very upset - "Hey, you said you were going to..."
 
I can't violate beta test agreements, but I could give you a very, very long list from multiple companies of features that were supposed to be part of a release but didn't make it in. This is one reason why companies are reluctant to commit too far in advance to the specific contents of a release, but the competition thing is a major issue as well.

Dappa1


Maybe it's because there is a buzz about studio one> I watched a video of them introducing Studio One and the excitement was coming thru. Maybe as a fledgling they have nothing to lose except just to run with it. The forums members get it in the presonus forums and they seem to understand the vision. Where it comes to cakewalk forums the vision seems a bit blurred and although some of the cakewalk boys come in here there seems to be a tight lip on production. Leaving us to send in threads such as is cakewalk just for loopers. Do we need gapless. Will they implement ARA when is the next release. will there be an update D. Is producer secondary to X1 expanded. Will they include expanded to the Producer version of X2. So many questions I could go on and on. SO yes there is involvement but not in terms of where cakewalk are heading. Is it just on the spur of the moment. As it seems everyone was waiting for 8.5 - 9 we got X1. That must have been a kick in the teeth for many here. So if there was more involvement people could make up there minds as to where thay are going. So should we stay or go or wait until X2 then make up our minds. Is that the position that cake fine themselves in. I hope not I wouldnt wish anything bad on anyone.

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DarinBad

Dappa1


Maybe it's because there is a buzz about studio one> I watched a video of them introducing Studio One and the excitement was coming thru. Maybe as a fledgling they have nothing to lose except just to run with it. The forums members get it in the presonus forums and they seem to understand the vision. Where it comes to cakewalk forums the vision seems a bit blurred and although some of the cakewalk boys come in here there seems to be a tight lip on production. Leaving us to send in threads such as is cakewalk just for loopers. Do we need gapless. Will they implement ARA when is the next release. will there be an update D. Is producer secondary to X1 expanded. Will they include expanded to the Producer version of X2. So many questions I could go on and on. SO yes there is involvement but not in terms of where cakewalk are heading. Is it just on the spur of the moment. As it seems everyone was waiting for 8.5 - 9 we got X1. That must have been a kick in the teeth for many here. So if there was more involvement people could make up there minds as to where thay are going. So should we stay or go or wait until X2 then make up our minds. Is that the position that cake fine themselves in. I hope not I wouldnt wish anything bad on anyone.

    
Beyond that, Cakewalk have (apparently) chosen to focus on adding new functionality (bells and whistles) to the program instead of addressing what I believe to be the fundamental flaw with SONAR: Stability.

I hope that in the (very) near future, that the powers-that-be, will let Cakewalk's devs focus on stability over 'enhancements'.

But it's just not factual if you look at the history since X1's release. X1a, b, c and the QuickFixes almost exclusively focus on stability. There weren't really any new features in any of these updates. There were enhancements to some functionality yes (bus selection, UI tweaks, etc), but aside from Expanded, for the bulk of the past 12 months Cakewalk has been doing pretty much nothing but working on stability. In addition, these updates not only fix bugs introduced since X1, but multiple dozens of older bugs.

John T


What do you mean by auto scaling? If you mean the graphical elements, I can't think of a single windows application that does that. I expect there are some, but it's something of a niche. 

DarinBad

John T


What do you mean by auto scaling? If you mean the graphical elements, I can't think of a single windows application that does that. I expect there are some, but it's something of a niche. 

Try the demo of most any other DAW, and you'll understand what i mean.

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

DarinBad

John T


What do you mean by auto scaling? If you mean the graphical elements, I can't think of a single windows application that does that. I expect there are some, but it's something of a niche. 

Try the demo of most any other DAW, and you'll understand what i mean.

I must confess I don't really understand what you mean. Most any DAW I've used gets smaller at higher resolutions and gets bigger at lower resolutions without any dynamic re-sizing of UI components. I've seen some programs outside of our industry that do some kind of dynamic scaling, but I wasn't aware that even the aforementioned Live or Studio One did this....(maybe someone has slipped it in and I didn't notice...).

John T


What are you talking about? They go to forum members' houses in the Presonus helicopter, fly them over to HQ with a champagne breakfast on board, and then let them sit in a golden director's chair behind the coders, telling them what to write, all the while being fed Ferrero Rocher by Scarlett Johanssen. Cakewalk are the ONLY company that DOESN'T do this.