IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!!!!

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IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!!!!

Man.....  I have to register fro another computer as my daw will never see the internet,  the daw says the serial # is invalid (the same number on the card it came with).   no phone support, you can acess online support once you have registered.  Well what the hell do you do when the problem is YOU CAN'T REGISTER THE DAMN THING!!  WTF!!  I hate automated machine messages. So I eventually call the sales phone line & the guys saidhe'd get someone to call me right back..... 3 hrs later still nothing.  So they man the phones for sales & blow you off for support. 
F*^king pefect.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/10/31 18:15:23 (permalink)
    One of the reasons I don't mind owning an iLok.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/10/31 21:55:25 (permalink)
    Your DAW never sees the internet because??????

    I ascribed to the same philosophy for a bit, had a another PC for internet access when I COULD do offline registrations, my DAW was non internet.
    Had the NW card disabled in BIOS, all W services disabled. (only because I was trying to run a "lean" Win7 environment. Well ran into issues like yours  . I re-enable the card in bios, and restart the services for NW access, grab the license authorizations, and my software is running, Truth be told, the NW services dont hog much resources, but I stiill do the dance to grab authorizations when  they wont reg off line.
    Ye sits a small PITA , but I dont wander off to other sites to browse,,
    ad BTW I am running a less than prime HW system, and old Dell XPS 420 with a core 3 duo 2.6, 8 gig ram,old intel p965 chipset, Sonar X1E, and still have  no performance issues leaving the NW services enabled..I just succumbed to all the tweak hype that is floating around,,  

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/10/31 22:47:18 (permalink)
    Below is a copy of the support request I just sent in (Helps explain my troubles and why I got frustrated)
    Hello there,
       After lots of good reviews on this software & decided to jump in.  So far it seems really great but I can't get it registered....   My daw is not (and never has been online) so I have to register from another computer.  The 1st segment of the serial number on the card included clearly states ART10-
      My daw says this is invalid.  frustrated that your company doesn't offer phone support, & online support is only available once you have registered... (what's a guy to do when registering is the problem?!!)  I called your sales line today.
    I apologized for calling the wrong dept. and explained my troubles,  he said he would have some one call me right away.... nothing yet.  when I told him about that segment of the serial number he seemed confused that it read ART... and said it's usually ARC.... 
      So after a few hours waiting for a call that never came I tried entering ARC10-(then the rest of my serial number) which the daw accepted.  which then got me a digital ID and I started the registraoin process on this site.  problem!  The site won't accept ARC10- but the serial number with ART10- worked.  and it got me a registration number that (as you might guess) my daw won't accept.    I am not a moron here and i really don't understand why this is so difficult, the lack of phone support has only fueled my frustration.  Please help me get this sorted out! and hopefully the useless registration I had to burn to get an account here so I could send this support request ticket does not count against me.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/04 22:41:27 (permalink)
    Did this get sorted out? If not PM me your ticket number and I'll follow it from my side as well. :)
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/05 10:25:53 (permalink)
    Yes/for the most part.... 
    I don't really know how but I was sent the package with a serial number that didn't match, they gave me a new one that the daw seems to accept, however I haven't run the new Authorization with this number yet because I wrote the support dept. back to see if it was possible to get the second auth code without using another of my 4 remaining codes.   It wasn't my fault that they sent the wrong serial number?  and it it wasn't my fault that I had to enter a useless registration just to gain support to fix the problem... so why should it lessen the usefull life of my new product?   They wrote back and said to just go ahead and use another one and if I run out they would unlock more codes for me.  Sounds good provided that they keep record of our correspondence and are will to do so years from now.  I thank you for your attention on this Obi.  I will shoot you a PM with the ticket number now.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/05 15:05:32 (permalink)
    I have been using both ik and ni stuff for a long time and find their authorization systems to be quite easy and trouble free.  Admittedly I have run into problems with "offline" registration similar to yours but "on-line" is a snap.  I assume it's the zero vs. letter "o" issue but regardless, my solution was to tether my studio computer whenever authorizations are needed.  I have no direct internet access in my "back of the property" studio but periodic short term tethering does the trick.

    Personally I like the system ik and ni use.  It protects them and is painless for us.  Takes under a minute and allows them to continue making a profit, thus able to create the next fantastic kit for us.

    As to customer service, I feel IK is far better than NI.  I've had numerous discussions/emails back and forth with IK and they are always pretty quick (within 24-48 hours) and very responsive. In fact, I'd say their personal attention to my queries have been STELLAR!  NI on the otherhand is totally useless and hardly ever responds.  

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/05 15:23:05 (permalink)
    Once again I had to auth my ARC system (for the third time on my new DAW) today. In addition, my authorization program required an update which I did.

    I received the message "your 10 day demo has expired" when I loaded a new instance of ARC in a new project. 

    So after updating the auth program and (again) authing ARC, I open a brand new project and inserted ARC on the master bus. Same problem.

    I submitted an IK support ticket today I'm hoping IK can sort it out.

    If I don't hear something from IK by next week I will be PM'ing Obi with my ticket number.


    BTW, when I get that message and choose continue, it "appears" ARC is working properly (i.e. ON vs OFF is audibly different as expected).
    post edited by bapu - 2011/11/05 15:24:45
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/05 18:39:20 (permalink)
    Bapu,
    Did you request a new number or just use your first existing number?
    I have lots of IK stuff and a few of the Synths wanted the number re-done after using the new "Authorization Manager".
    Never had one ask a third time though...

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/05 19:21:16 (permalink)
    Tom,

    I've never requested a new number.

    Maybe they will give me one via my support ticket if that's what it takes.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/06 09:16:35 (permalink)
    Bapu,
    IK Obi will have to weigh in here, but the reason I asked is many users blow thru a bunch of their authorizations when the process "hangs" like it has on you.
    In my case I did a "manual" authorization; I think it asks if you want to "use existing authorization", something like that and maybe "not recommended".
    Then I loaded the original number in manually (not using the "manager" a second time) and bingo good to go.
    Like I said before I never had to authorize a third time.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/06 10:58:45 (permalink)
    I have complained about IK's arcane authorization system. It chews up authorizations needlessly and is very unintuitive. IK's only answer is (as echoed by IK Obi)... "don't worry, just contact us when you run out we'll give you more". I have stopped using their products. I have plenty of quality instruments from NI and their service center is leap years ahead of IK's.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/06 11:06:52 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps


    Bapu,
    IK Obi will have to weigh in here, but the reason I asked is many users blow thru a bunch of their authorizations when the process "hangs" like it has on you.
    In my case I did a "manual" authorization; I think it asks if you want to "use existing authorization", something like that and maybe "not recommended".
    Then I loaded the original number in manually (not using the "manager" a second time) and bingo good to go.
    Like I said before I never had to authorize a third time.

    Tom

    I have always entered the serial number manually with the new Auth Manager. I'm not familiar with a manual authorization. I'll look into that today.
    Anubis


    I have complained about IK's arcane authorization system. It chews up authorizations needlessly and is very unintuitive. IK's only answer is (as echoed by IK Obi)... "don't worry, just contact us when you run out we'll give you more". I have stopped using their products. I have plenty of quality instruments from NI and their service center is leap years ahead of IK's.

    I have no problems with all IK 32 bit plugs (using the arcane auth). I have no problems with the latest Amplitube 3.5 being auth'd on two DAWs using the new Auth Manager. It's just 64bit ARC that acts strange.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/06 11:18:55 (permalink)
    I too have an "off line" DAW. 

    I never shut off the NIC. I am not overly concerned to connect it to the internet if I need to for downloads or updates or authorizing software. It's just much faster to do that and then to pull the plug and I'm off line again. 

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/06 13:13:25 (permalink)
    @ChuckC Thanks for the PM, I've forwarded the info to the right people and you should be getting a response in the next day or so. As for authorizations being used up, let us know and we will supply you with more. @Anubis I'm sorry you feel that way about us. Is there anything I can do to help you out and change your mind?
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/06 14:18:54 (permalink)
    Obi,

    Now here's the weird part. Everytime I auth ARC (and I just did an offline auth). My auths DO NOT decrease.

    So, that's good but what is up with prompt that my 10 day demo period has expired message/prompt? I only get that prompt when inserting a new instance of ARC.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 09:01:13 (permalink)
    Bapu,
    Run Sonar as "Administrator", then load ARC into a new project.
    I think then the prompt will let you enter the Auth number.
    If not, you might have to re-install ARC, that would require you to re-test (Yikes!), unless there is a way to save the tests.
    I guess we'll have to wait on Obi's advice...

    Annibus (actually to all),
    You don't have to "chew" up anything. Your computer has a "digital" id and an Auth number that is ALWAYS available at the IK website.
    Re-enter the original code, its easy.
    It works on-line or off, its a minor inconvenience compared to the way Cake handles things.
    But hey they want (need) to get paid for their product.

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 11:24:33 (permalink)
    Tom,

    I always run SONAR as Administrator. IK told me install 1.3 of ARC. I told them that I am running 1.3. It's the only version I've run on this newly built DAW.

    BTW, you can save your tests config. It's in a file on the hard drive (forget where right now). Maybe that is my problem. I'm using the config from a test run on the previous 32bit only version of ARC.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 14:44:25 (permalink)
    bapu


    BTW, you can save your tests config. It's in a file on the hard drive (forget where right now). Maybe that is my problem. I'm using the config from a test run on the previous 32bit only version of ARC.


    I've been using ARC since it was only a 32-bit plug-in and now I'm using it as a 64-bit plug-in while using my original test results from the 32bit version with no problems so that probably isn't at issue.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 14:46:26 (permalink)
    gustabo


    bapu


    BTW, you can save your tests config. It's in a file on the hard drive (forget where right now). Maybe that is my problem. I'm using the config from a test run on the previous 32bit only version of ARC.


    I've been using ARC since it was only a 32-bit plug-in and now I'm using it as a 64-bit plug-in while using my original test results from the 32bit version with no problems so that probably isn''t at issue.

    Well that probably rules that out and since this is a fresh install of the 64bit on this newly built DAW (ie.e not an upgrade etc.) I'm stumped.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 18:00:09 (permalink)
    My issue was resolved.  Thank you for your help Obi!

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 18:55:51 (permalink)
    Great news for you ChcukC.

    I've had at least 6 go rounds with IK support today. So far we've installed, reinstalled, reauth'd and changed file permissions. All to no avail.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 19:05:49 (permalink)
    bapu,
    Run a new test, just leave the mic in one spot so it will go fast, and use that profile; and see what happens...

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/07 23:53:26 (permalink)
    Sorry Bapu,
    Hope you get it straight, an auth per new project could get expensive!

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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/08 11:39:45 (permalink)
    Whoddathunk?

    That a deinstall & reinstall would solve the problem. Especially since this was on a DAW that was a clean install of W7 and ARC.

    OH well. Now I wait 11 days to see if the problem comes back.
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/13 19:16:56 (permalink)
    Be sure to keep us updated, I want to make sure your ARC issue gets resolved. :)
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    Re:IK Multimedia-ARC system.. great software, registration however is a pain in the @*$!!! 2011/11/13 20:24:03 (permalink)
    IK Obi


    Be sure to keep us updated, I want to make sure your ARC issue gets resolved. :)

    5 or 6 more days will tell.


    No more problems, so far.
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