Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN?

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2011/10/31 22:55:43 (permalink)

Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN?

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I'm hoping someone might have some good tips / leads / thoughts...

At my production studio day gig, we've had ISDN lines for about 15 years, but the use of it is dwindling, while the costs of the lines are going up. We're toying with ditching the lines and going with Source Connect. For the times we'd have to hook up to someone that doesn't have source connect, we'd use a bridging service (thru someone like EDnet), which I think would still be cheaper in the long run than keeping the ISDN lines.

So, my questions are- does anyone have any experience with Source Connect, and how it performs in VO sessions? As good as ISDN (we've been using the Telos Zepher)? Does bridging to an ISDN studio work ok? Lastly, if you know a forum more suited to this particular kinda geekdom, point me that way!

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    Re:Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN? 2011/10/31 23:04:29 (permalink)
    This has always been sort of a nit with me. The fact that a delivery system (I.e. ISDN) has become the ubiquitous term for tandem audio recording utilizing a codec. We too have had ISDN lines for many years in our studio...but we've never had a codec for dual location recording. That said, most of our clients across the country would prefer NOT to pay two studios for the same audio. Especially when we can email, FTP or YouSendIt only minutes later. I'll look into source connect tho...always try to stay current. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Re:Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN? 2011/11/01 06:00:56 (permalink)
    Therein lies the fear- so many of the pro studios have ISDN, yet there appears to be a better, cheaper alternative.... but it's no good if nobody has it.  We've been fearful of dumping the ISDN (would hate to have a client go elsewhere), but at this point we're losing money on keeping the lines active.
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    Re:Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN? 2011/11/01 11:35:17 (permalink)
    One of my friendly competitors has had a codec in place for many years.  And they charge an arm and a leg to their client base to use it.  My understanding is that they too seldom get a call for it.  And I'm sure if they put paper to pencil and determined just how much they've put into it over the years versus how much they've gotten out they would be very chagrined.  Our lines were initially installed for us by ESPN back when we were doing their radio show.  But after it got cancelled we just used them for our internet connect...still do.  I suspect I've saved thousands of semolians over the last ten years NOT having a codec.  I believe we've been asked to use one on three or four separate occasions and on two of those they used us anyway and we emailed the audio to them.  The last one was for ADR for Joel and Ethan Cohen and True Grit.  Although their session co-ordinator was leery, the brothers could not have been nicer on the phone patch nor could they have cared less whether we had a codec or not.  Just curious...do you guys use your codec often and if so, what sort of sessions are you doing?  And thanks again for the Source Connect FYI...I'm off to check into now;-)


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    Re:Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN? 2011/11/01 11:50:34 (permalink)
    Well, the price is right for us (we're PC based...not ProTools...another long time difference with our competitors) since we'd need the VST plug and it looks good.  And it's great to know there's a truly affordable resource out there now if we should really, really need it.  I also saw that my local cadre of "friendly competitors" have it.  Think I'll give them a call and see just how often they use it;-)

    Again..thanks so much for the heads up!  I think technology has finnaly caught up and intersected with my ultimate, tightwad cheapness.

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    Re:Any pro studios using Souce Connect instead of ISDN? 2011/11/01 12:25:22 (permalink)
    We're only using our ISDN line once a month or so, mostly for tracking out of market VO talent.  We used to frequently have Ad Agencies want to use out of market talent, but not so much anymore.  Because of that, the cost of keeping the line is pretty steep- it's probably just barely paying for itself, but that's not how we pay the bills.  If source connect works with bridging services, (so that we never have to turn down an ISDN session) then it may be worth dumping the ISDN lines.

    So far, the only feedback I've heard elsewhere that's a caution is that we might want to have a dedicated cable or T-1 line for it so that a signal doesn't bog down or disconnect if someone else in the building happens to start a really big upload or download during a session!  (Disconnect during sessions with client in room.....very bad!)

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