'Trim audio > 'Consolidate -one more shot at this please

Per this.. http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2419762  I thought I'd run this by you all one more time.
I was trying to trim/cut and or delete and consolidate a big project down to a smaller single song and file version.
Since there was still the posibility other things in that big source project were keeping the files huge (preventing saving just the trimed data) I started fresh with a new proj. I've imported a nice long half gig file and tried paring it down again, but the result is the same -still the original file size.
Looks to me there's a few possibilities;
a) I haven't figured out how to use the 'apply triming' function on 'split-off and deleted file data, or b) this isn't what 'trimming does/is for.
 
Call for a light for to guide me
 
(SP 8.5.2 btw

Very good. I tried 'save as w/ copy audio (on the original trials), but likely I saved' first.
Back in a bit..

Ok, I just did this- New proj, (per-project folders' on), import half gig track, save.
Set marker at the end of song 1, highlight all after the song and delete'.
'Save-as, got a new version with a new folder and file- the size is the same.
I did this about three times including a re-boot just in case.
And just to be clear you ou are talking about breaking down one long clip rather than songs there were started-stopped giving a line of indivual clips?

I'm talking about one big long multi track session were it was not possible to stop between songs because I'm also running FOH and I'm busy. File size?? To tell the truth, I've never looked at the file size. I don;t really care about that as I have never come close to using more than a fraction of any given drive I use. Are these just one track files or multi?? Or is this a like 32 bit 96Khz thing? 1 gig is not much these days.

jm24


I have done this dozens of times:
 
path to original project: E:\audioprojects\greatstuff\original.cwp
 
open project
 
split audio tracks, delete unwanted bits
 
apply trimming to clips
 
save as to E:\audioprojects\songone\songone.cwp
 
for next song I move the clips to the beginning of the time line
 
If no joy, try this additional step:  after apply trimming   bounce to clips   and then save as
 
j

The apply trimming', from what I see from the manual, is for slip edits.
I've used 'split and/or cut, and while the sections to be removed are still highlighted (selected) hit apply trimming' -nothing (visable at least) happens, then delete them, save-as etc. If it's after their deleted (or anytime no clips are selected for that mater) it's greyed out.
So what are we trimming?
Cacti said "..To tell the truth, I've never looked at the file size. I don;t really care about that as I have never come close to using more than a fraction of any given drive I use. Are these just one track files or multi?? Or is this a like 32 bit 96Khz thing? 1 gig is not much these days. "
 
Gadds no. 44/24. But I've already got a 30gig backup. Three or four natural splits (from stops) in some 6-8gig chuncks. 25 some odd songs x 6-8 gigs ea. That'sa some consolidation!
 
 So maybe that's where this is headed. 'Trimming's got nothing to do with this (? keeping the options open here.. ) And frankly if I haddent seen 'consoladating, 7.8gigs, 4 minutes remaining..' for a three min song.. I wouldn't have wondered either.

 

Apply trimming removes reference to the unseen parts of the clip.
The visual clue is the change of the clip corners.
And slipping the ends of the clip reveals the data is gone that once was there.

Bouncing to clips creates a new clip of only the remaining data.

Just did the science thang:  bouncing to clips is REQUIRED to reduce the file size by creating a new clip. Apply trimming is not required when bouncing to clips.

Before Saving-As to new folder and file name, select all the wanted clips and Bounce To Clips.

This will create new clips in the audio folder of the current project. These will need to be deleted manually after done with all the dividing stuff.

After bouncing to clips, save-as to a new folder and file name. The new clips will be copied to the new audio folder.

FYI: I have Sonar set to use 32 bit rendering. This results in 50% larger files than 24 bit. So, a 50k clip cut in 1/2 and bounced to clips will not be 25k. it will be about 38k.

now you know!!!!!

j

jm24
Apply trimming removes reference to the unseen parts of the clip.
The visual clue is the change of the clip corners.
And slipping the ends of the clip reveals the data is gone that once was there.

Bouncing to clips creates a new clip of only the remaining data.

Just did the science thang:  bouncing to clips is REQUIRED to reduce the file size by creating a new clip. Apply trimming is not required when bouncing to clips.

Before Saving-As to new folder and file name, select all the wanted clips and Bounce To Clips.

This will create new clips in the audio folder of the current project. These will need to be deleted manually after done with all the dividing stuff.

After bouncing to clips, save-as to a new folder and file name. The new clips will be copied to the new audio folder.

..now you know!!!!!

j

Yep. It was a nice few laps around the block to get there but it was good ruling out 'trimming and all that other stuff about how or when to save etc. This is the completely logical answer.
Everyone got to learn a bit about our systems- that'sa good right?