patmc007
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MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
In Music Creator 5, you could associate an external audio / wave editor so that you could do more detailed editing of wave files outside the MC software. I don't see this feature in Music Creator 6. Am I missing it? Can you edit wave files in an external editor which are created inside of MC6?
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Guitarhacker
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
November 13, 11 7:50 AM
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No.... unless you buy the unlock key for the MP3 converter... but all that does if I understand correctly is let you export mp3's directly from MC. For waves, I use WAVEPAD ... it's free. http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/index.html Others use LAME or Audacity is another popular one. I export the wave to a temporary holding folder, and open it in Wavepad to trim the start & end as well raising the final levels to just under 0db.
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
November 15, 11 10:32 AM
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actually, yes, you can associate an external editor from the TOOLS of MC5. I don't have MC5 with me at work, so I don't remember exactly how to do it. some wave editors get configured into sonar's TOOLS menu automatically (like Soundforge). which external editor are you trying to use from inside MC?
also, your 2nd question, yes, all you would have to do is export your project to a stereo wave file, then import it into the wave editor.
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patmc007
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
November 18, 11 2:10 PM
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I'm using Goldwave's audio editor. When I previously used MC5, I understood how to associate Goldwave with the MC5 software. I don't see how to associate this or any audio editing software with MC6. Can this be done? And if it can't be done with an external program, can it be done with Cakewalk's audio editing software?
Thanks!
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
November 18, 11 3:02 PM
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I have never done this myself. there's an article on Scott Garrigus' website about how to do it but it looks like he hasn't updated the article for X1 based sonar (MC6 is based on X1). you might could still get it to work using a method similar to what he's listed. http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/article.asp?ID=2
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patmc007
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 26, 11 10:55 AM
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Beagle, I tried your suggestion. I was able to get 'Goldwave' listed in the menu and it does launch the program. Unfortunately, I can not get it to launch the program with the associated file in Music Creator. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 26, 11 11:29 AM
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I don't see the purpose for "associating" a wave editor with MC for use externally. And I see no purpose to having it open inside of MC...with the exception to be able to export as an mp3, which for me, doesn't matter.
It's just as easy to export the wave file to a holding folder, and open it in the external wave editor.
From there, simply resave it after the editing, or into a new MP3 folder if you convert it.
I like the fact that my editor is totally separated from MC. It gives me that "finished" perspective on the song as to what I have ended up with in the final mix.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 26, 11 2:13 PM
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If those instructions don't work, then I don't know how to fix it. I don't do this myself - I export to a wave file then import into my mastering/wave editing program.
sorry, it should work, but I can't help if that didn't.
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 26, 11 5:42 PM
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GuitarHacker, haven't you ever laid an audio track down that you needed to edit, beyond what MC6 allows? I'm not talking about polishing the final mix. I'm talking about a vocal track that you lay down that you may wish to normalize, or trim out some incedental sounds you didn't intend? MC5 let you associate a wave editting program so that you could highlight a clip in question to send it directly to your favorite audio editor, make your changes, then send it back to MC5. This saves you the frustrating task of searching your hard drive to locate the exact clip you wanted to edit. It was a great feature that was removed from MC6. If there is another way to accomplish this, I'd love to know about it. And to Beagle....thanks again for that article. Perhaps I'll try it again to make sure I didn't miss something.
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 26, 11 10:37 PM
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just to play devil's advocate here, tho, normalizing, trimming out unwanted sounds all can be done from within MC6, tho. there's really not a lot that goldwave can do that MC6 can't. the only thing I can really think of that it can do that MC6 can't is using the pencil tool to edit the actual wave file. but honestly I don't do that myself. if the recording is in need of that kind of editing (like for clipping) then I need to re-record instead.
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 26, 11 11:18 PM
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Plus, it's not hard to create a folder on the desktop called 'Audio Files' then export the track or clip to that folder, then to the editor and back to MC. Just a few extra steps and no searching needed.
But I understand the convenience of having the editor available without having to export the audio for editing.
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 27, 11 8:42 AM
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Pat.. to answer that question... No. I have never needed to export or edit audio beyond what MC can do internally with the built in editing tools. I can normalize in the track if I wish.... I can adjust gain levels up and down by db, either in whole or just a clip, which can be a fraction of a beat by zooming in , I can add envelopes to automatically control the volume and panning for me...... plus, I have other plug ins that allow pitch correction and all of it is in the track inside MC. In addition to these things, I know there are more editing tools that are available in the tracks that I have not needed to this point. Plus... in the track, all the edits are reversible from the undo menu...(to a point) So no, I have never needed to go outside the box to work on a track. While that is possible to do, it involves a bunch of extra work that is not needed when you simply work in the track.
post edited by Guitarhacker - December 27, 11 8:43 AM
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 27, 11 12:05 AM
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I thank you all for your input. I think the issue is really more about my novice approach to MC6 and trying to hold on to old habits. Perhaps MC6 took this feature out because it is no longer needed. I'll look more into the editing tools available for audio files as you have all described.
Thanks again!! And Happy Holidays!
Patrick Via www.soundcloud.com/patmc007 Sonar X3 Producer Lexicon Lambda Pro Audio Interface M-Audio Keystation Mini 32 Midi Controller Korg nanoPAD 2 MXL 990 Microphone Roland D-50 Linear Synth A Wing A Prayer "The music I conjure up in my head and the music I generate on my computer are seldom the same. But it is my goal for them to be so."
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Re:MC6 and Associate External Wave Editor
December 27, 11 2:59 PM
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Loose the old habits, embrace the new.... and ride the wave.
I went through the same thing when MC4 became my DAW.... quite a change in the way of doing things but as it turned out.... it was a better way in MC4.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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