Latency Returning After Several Passes

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November 16, 11 2:57 PM (permalink)

Latency Returning After Several Passes

Recently I've encountered an issue where my system will be stable as it normally is when using MC5 and then I start getting latency when recording. It can start in the middle of a take or immediately after finishing a take and beginning a new one. I can open my Audio dialogue box and click OK on the ASIO drivers and the problem will disappear for a short while and then return again. Note, I don't even have to make a change to the ASIO drivers, which I set to the next to lowest setting for recording. I've never had this problem before and it's getting old very quickly. Any ideas/suggestions?
 
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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes November 16, 11 3:54 PM (permalink)
    that's an odd problem.  do you have a lot of FX and/or softsynths on the project?  when you say  latency are you talking about keyboard latency or slow to start when you press the play on the transport or what?

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes November 16, 11 6:11 PM (permalink)
    Check to see that Playback and Recording Master is still using the Lexicon as a source. Even though MC4 is using my external sound interface, occasionally it decides to use the internal sound card (and it's latencies) as the playback master.

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes November 17, 11 10:19 AM (permalink)
    I'm experiencing the issue whether the track is FX intensive or just a single audio track. It's really got me stumped. I can open MC5 and start a new project. At first things are just fine. After a few takes (or sometimes in the middle of a take) I begin to experience the latency. I can go into the Audio settings and change nothing, but hit the "OK" button. When it returns back to the program everything is fine for a bit and then it will start again.

    By latency I mean I can strike a string on my guitar and I won't hear it until a few milliseconds later. Thus far I've only experienced it when working with audio tracks.

    When I go into my Audio settings it still shows my Lexicon as the source for both recording and playback. Is this the Recording Master you're talking about, Tap?

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes November 17, 11 10:43 AM (permalink)
    so you have your guitar connected direct into the lambda input and are monitoring by using the INPUT ECHO on the track as you record?  and at first it works, but then after a few takes it starts delaying unless you go to the audio settings and reset (selecting OK will reset them at the same parameters).

    this sounds like a driver issue to me.  have you checked lexicon's website for driver updates?

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes November 17, 11 2:45 PM (permalink)
    I think Beagle is probably right on this one. Sounds like a driver issue in your case.

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 13, 11 3:00 PM (permalink)
    I've downloaded the drivers again just to be sure. Still no luck. I haven't gotten anything done in weeks now due to this issue. It's gotten so bad now I simply cannot record. Also for clarification, my guitar is not connected to the Lambda input. I'm using a mic to record acoustic instruments. I've tried different mic positions to no avail as well.

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 13, 11 3:24 PM (permalink)
    ok, but the mic is connected to the Lambda, right?

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 14, 11 5:22 PM (permalink)
    Yes, the mic is connected to the Lambda.

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 14, 11 5:37 PM (permalink)
    mic positions will have nothing to do with latency.  as long as the mic is connected to the lambda and that it's NOT a USB mic.

    try WDM driver mode instead and see if that will reduce your latency.

    however, this statement:
    I'm experiencing the issue whether the track is FX intensive or just a single audio track.

    is bothering me.  if you're not using FX on a track but still getting latency - what do you mean by "latency"?  do you mean the track you're recording is lagging behind the other tracks when you play it back?  or do you mean you're listening using INPUT ECHO and it's delayed?  or what does that mean exactly?  (I asked about this earlier, but I still don't think I'm getting a clear answer).

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 17, 11 4:51 PM (permalink)
    I'm monitoring using the Input Echo. Sorry, I didn't make it clear. :) 

    "I'm experiencing the issue whether the track is FX.... track."

    By this I was replying to your question about whether I was applying alot of FX or softsynths. I get the echo or latency whether I'm using something FX/softsynth intensive and on several tracks or when I simply record a single audio track dry. The recording pass will begin just fine. Everything is normal. Then at some point during the take I will begin getting an echo that varies from just a few milliseconds to well past the point of unbearable. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to when it kicks in or the amount affected. And it just started out of the blue last month.

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 21, 11 6:05 AM (permalink)
    Finally solved! The problem wasn't with the software or the drivers or anything of that nature, but with my antivirus program. I was running CA antivirus and it was interfering with not only my recording software but other stuff as well. The machine got to the point that it sounded like a jet engine cleared for takeoff. I completely uninstalled the antivirus and haven't had a problem since. Of course, I did purchase other AV software and have had no problem with it since. Thanks guys for all your help!

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 21, 11 7:51 AM (permalink)
    I switched from CA to MS Security Essentials. 

    It is free, and works great with a small footprint. 

    All my computers are now running MSE.

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    Re:Latency Returning After Several Passes December 21, 11 1:03 PM (permalink)
    I never use AV on a DAW. If I must hit the net, i will use another computer, and move stuff via a flash drive.

    My DAW is connected, but only for small program updates to the DAW software itself.

    If you must use AV since it is the only computer, turn it off when recording, and back on when surfing.

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