Scoobie
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Cover, Long Train Runn'in............... Re-Mix posted
Doobie Brothers cover............. This was recorded in a large room but we were limited on space. I only used a mic on the bass cab (MD 421) and it was sitting right beside the drums. :( I rolled off most of the highs to limit the drum bleed (cymbals) and I'm wanting some feedback on the mix. Really on the low's, Especially on the bass. I'm struggling on the lowend. These guy's are good friends of mine and I'm going to surprise them with a CD of the covers we recorded. Thanks for any critic I get on the mix, good or bad. Re-Mix~~~~> http://soundcloud.com/outbackremoterecording/long-train-runn-in-doobie Tim
post edited by Scoobie - 2011/11/21 23:38:06
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radio
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/21 00:10:43
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Hi this song was one of my favorite songs , I used to practice drums to this one alot and played it almost near perfect .
Listening to this version its alittle bit on the slow side , my other sore spot here is the mix .
Its pretty hard to get it perfect when your lacking band members , two drummers , keyboard player and some of the other instruments that are missing that gives the song more body .
Your vocals sound right but the music sounds empty in my ears , thats my take on your version .
Its not bad but its not the real deal because I have played it many times and listened to it many times over and have seen them play it live at one of their concerts .
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Guitarpima
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/21 00:25:23
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I used to play this all the time with my band about ten million years ago when we had to fend of raptors! lol! Thanks for posting this! It brings back good memories!
Pretty good cover. It needs ambience though.
Other than that, well done!
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Bob Oister
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/21 03:06:55
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Hey, Tim,
That's really great that you're doing the cover CD for those guys, I'm sure they'll really appreciate it!
Yep, like Guitarpima, I also played this in a cover band way back when, and you did a really nice job capturing the live vibe of the song as well as the instruments. As for the mix, I think the panning sounds good to me and the guitars, vocals and drums sound great. I think I might try running a high pass filter on the bass track upwards to maybe 60 or 80hz to try to clean up some of the low end. I think the bass might be masking the kick drum somewhat, and the filter should help. If that doesn't help, you could also try to isolate the kick drum's main frequency and give it a slight nudge, and then notch out the same frequency on the bass guitar track. That would probably separate the kick drum and bass a little more and give them room to breathe. Just a suggestion that might be worth a try.
Anyway, very nice job on this, and it's great to see you back on the forum, have a good one, buddy!
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/21 07:27:51
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I love the Doobies!!!!!
This cover is lacking vocal harmonies. I'd replace the lower octave vox with high harmony parts. I'd also redo the rhythm guitar using a cleaner, warmer setting or with an acoustic guitar. Finding a harmonica player for the solo would be the icing on the cake too.
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/21 18:44:31
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Used to play this one back in the day with a band :-) I like the song, there's something off in the background vocals :-( There's supposed to be harmonies? But it's an octave, and it's a little pitchy :-( I'm listening on notebook speakers so I can't comment on the mix.
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Scoobie
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/21 23:20:53
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radio........thanks for your time, The Doobie Brothers are a very hard act to follow that's for sure .
I though for a couple of old farts on guitar they didn't do half bad. lol I've known these guy's for over 30 years.
Guitarpima......Glad it brought back some good memories. Thanks for listening !
ambience, I do have two room mic tracks. I'll just have to add alittle. thanks again
Bob.......Thanks for your time Bob, I do my best to capture the live performance, But mix'in live recordings
can be a beast. LOL I'm listening to a re-mix as I type this. I used a Highpass filter as you suggested
and alittle EQ on the kick. Add some more room mic's to the mix as Guitarpima offered.
If you get a chance listen to the re-mix and see if the low frequency is better. Thanks again !
Scottytunes...............I love the Doobies also ! This cover is lacking alot compared to the original, lol
Want be no re-do's or adds, it's live. If I did, then it wouldn't be live. The lower octave vox is the drummer. We call him Wolfman, about 5 feet tall 300 pounds and he can't sing. LOL But he is a great guy!
bandontherun19.........Thanks for time to post. Background vocal, that's Wolfman. Sure the hell ain't no harmonies thats for sure. lol
I'm posting a re-mix in my original post............... :) Tim
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Bob Oister
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/22 03:25:02
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Hey, Tim,
You did a great job sweeping out a lot of the low end mud on this, I think it definitely sounds much cleaner now! I know it's super hard trying to mix a live recording that was recorded in a not so perfect live setting, but you always seem to do a really good job.
Nice work, brother, have a Happy Thanksgiving!  Bob
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/22 08:15:44
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Another song I wish I had a dollar for every time I played it.
For a live recording, not to bad. It felt just a tad too slow.... but still sounded pretty good.
Trying to get a good mix, and good quality on a live setup in the various rooms one has to play in.... well, it's not easy.
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/22 09:34:45
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Background vocals a bit weak but what the heck! Singer is good and the music is nicely done. Not really an easy song to do. I think you guys pulled it off, especially considering it's a live recording. Oh, I loved the lead guitar!
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Scoobie
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Re:Cover, Long Train Runn'in
2011/11/22 20:45:41
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Bob........ thanks for your time to listen again. I appreciate the tip on the high pass filter.
I was surprised on just how much bass I could cut out of the mix.........:)
This recording I used 16 mic's and could hear the entire band in all channel's if soloed,
the guitars had less bleed then the others. The cabs where mic'ed with Sennheiser e906's about a 2" away from speaker grill, fender twin and fender reverb. Thanks again !
Herb.......I appreciate you take'n time to listen. Yeah, everybody has played this good old tune. Thanks
Warren...........Thanks ! The lead was played by David Street, son of Mel Street. I love to hear him play his Dad's old tunes. Mel took his own life in 1978. David's dad wrote a song called, Just Hangin' On and on the same day he committed suicide that record debut on the country charts.
Tim
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