MiykPace
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Upgrading my studio condenser mics
First off i'd like to thank the users of this forum that helped me with purchasing my first condensers back in 09, MCA SP1 was highly recommended and since then I've bought a total of four and couldn't have asked for a better mic to start off with. That being said, it's been quiet some time & with all the sales for black Friday going around I would really like to try some new models out. Condensers have been the only type of mic I have recorded with, I messed around with a few of my friends ribbons when recording drums once but other than that I have found the SP1 to work with recording almost everything. That being said I was looking at a MXL 990/991 package. Both mics seem to be quality recording mics, not too expensive either. Then I ran into the Audix i5 which seems to be gleaming with positive review but I'm not very experienced with using that type of mic. I'm also worried that it would prove to be sub-par for vocals compared to a condenser. Lastly I'm considering the Shure SM57 for obvious reasons. If anyone has experience with these microphones I would love some input, I have always consulted with this forum before any of my studio related purchases and have yet to find anything I have bought to be unsatisfactory. So thank you in advance for the help :]
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Beagle
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/21 06:15:17
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the MXL990/991 is not an upgrade from the SP1. In fact, they all 3 have the exact same diaphram! the Audix i5 is not a condensor, it's a dynamic mic. it's a great mic, but not an all purpose mic, IMO. better at transients like recording drums. SM57 is also a great mic - and it is more of an all purpose, although slightly more geared toward cab recording. it is also a dynamic mic. I would suggest you look at my website for some more recommendations also. personally I"m not that fond of the SP1, but that's a personal preference for my uses. it's a great starter mic for a budget, tho. if you want to upgrade, it depends on your budget, but I'd consider some of the true large diaphram condensors (the SP1 is actually a small diaphram condensor in a large frame) like the MXL V63M or M-audio Nova (a sleeper "quality" mic, IMO) or AT2020, Rode NT1A, something along that line. if you record acoustic guitar, I'd also consider getting 2 mics (like you're considering with the 990/991 combo) with one being LD and the other being SD, and maybe choose something like the AT2021 or MXL993 matched set.
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Ron Vogel
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/22 21:06:37
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I swapped mics left and right over the course of a couple of years. For MY purposes as a "weekend warrior" type of set-up, I can only afford a small collection of mics. What I found is that you definately want to stay away from "character" mics...that is mics that impart a coloration of the sound. ALL mics will impart some, but some are more flat...more or less what you would call workhorse mics that do everything fairly well without much fuss. Many mics can get fussy with certain preamps too. I am of the opinion that whatever mics you pick should hold their resale fairly well...this resale value should be considered because if the market holds a high value to it that you can expect it's coveted for a reason! Anyway, enough with my old man lecture... For the home studio, you really can't go wrong with a dynamic such as an SM57/58. For condensers KSM32, KSM44, AT4033, AT4050. All will serve you well and deliver pro results. Personally, I can't get into the MXL's too much...kind of a disposable dealio...although I did have good results with the MCA SP-1...BUT, to be honest doesn't sound too much different to me than an SM58.
post edited by Ron Vogel - 2011/11/22 21:09:32
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Gaffpro
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/24 21:37:13
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Also the Shure KSM27 sounds really good for the $ On my voice I either use my Neumann U87 or Peluso U47 clone. I've used the AT4050 alot over the years, but to my ears it sounds a little "vanilla" being a flatter mike. I picked up a Guage tube mike ( cheap U47 knockoff) that sounds really good and it's inexpensive
post edited by Gaffpro - 2011/11/24 21:39:10
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/25 06:11:33
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I picked up a Guage tube mike ( cheap U47 knockoff) that sounds really good and it's inexpensive Unlike the Neumann & the Peluso +1 for the AT4033 - I picked up one of these back in about 1999 and it's still my goto mic even now, especially for female vocalists. +1 for the SM57 for micing up any sort of guitar cab (and a number of vocalists like using them as well)
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/25 08:47:55
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I've heard side by side comparisons of Gauge vs the expensive mics....live. They are an excellent bang for the buck. Just wish I had heard of them before I bought the Rode. I have 2 mics..... my trusty SM58 which I've had for years. (30+ and it still rocks) I would only use it live on stage, not as a studio mic, ever since I bought the Rode NT-2A condenser for studio use. The NT-2A has it hands down over the 58 for studio work. I use it, out of necessity, on everything now......mainly on vocals, and acoustic instruments. For the money, I think it's a good mic.
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Gaffpro
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/25 12:38:54
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Herb: Go to the Gauge website.......I believe the engineer that oversees this company is Rob Chicarelli....I got mine with a $100 off coupon they had as a special and I think these mikes go on sale quite a bit. I think I paid $299 for the mike at the time. Also the U87 knockoff has gotten good reviews. The Gauge 47 has been getting some use in commercial facilities in Nashville, particularly on background vox
post edited by Gaffpro - 2011/11/25 12:40:33
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/25 17:16:53
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I think one of the best Go To mics for most any situation is the EV RE20. It's a high quality dynamic.... to me, dynamics have inherent advantages over condensers on some instruments and situations. They've been a standard for over 40 years for good reason.
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/26 20:01:03
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An SM57 (or two) is a very useful mic to have - they're very flexible. Add in a large diaphragm condensor/stereo pair (on a budget, the NT1A is good, so are the lower priced end of the AT range) and you can cover most things. Finally, if you record cymbals, drum top kit, acoustic guitar, strings or woodwind I'd suggest a small diaphragm condensor is worth getting as well. The AKG C1000S is a decent cheap mic (it was much more expensive when originally launched - three times the price) or have a look at the Se range. Having capsule patterns other than cardoid is very useful - omni in particular can create much more natural sounding recordings of solo instruments by capturing more of the room sound and omni also tends to have a flatter frequecy response as well (less proximity bass boost/treble rise). If you record drum kits/acoustic bass or a bass cab a dedicated low frequency kick-type mic can be very useful as well.
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Re:Upgrading my studio condenser mics
2011/11/27 19:33:12
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