MC 6 - Can not Record

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2011/11/27 22:52:50 (permalink)

MC 6 - Can not Record

 I just purchased MC 6 for my HP Pavilion DV6. 6 gigs Ram, i5, Beats Audio. I ran the audio test and it appeared to finish just fine. I imported a midi file and changed the instruments and adjusted pan and volume controls. I selected all tracks to be recorded (record = on) and when I try to record the tracks, I can hear them, but no wave file is being written or recorded. I've tried everything the videos and help files suggest. I know there is a simple solution... Please help the newbie...
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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/28 00:50:57 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum.
    You can hear the MIDI while it plays, correct? What else are you trying to record?
    I think what you want to do is Bounce the tracks to render the MIDI to audio.

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/28 12:10:16 (permalink)
    you can "preview" the waveform by clicking on the waveform icon on the synth output track.  is that what you're wanting to do?  there's no waveform being recorded just by playing the project - the waveform itself will only be recorded if you export the project/track or bounce or freeze the synth track.

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/28 12:24:05 (permalink)
    Thanks for your reply. Yes, I can hear the midi tracks. So how do I Bounce tracks or render the MIDI to audio?
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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/28 16:41:37 (permalink)
    As has been pointed out Midi is data and you will not see a wave form being recorded. 

    Select the track and then in the area right above the tracks... not the top tool bar..... there are several option tabs. Select the one called TRACKS...and in the drop down there should be BOUNCE TO TRACK.  

    click it. the audio will now be bounced to a new audio track..... you can also select FREEZE SYNTH and it will render the midi into audio in the same track. You can easily unfreeze and edit the midi as needed. 

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 02:21:25 (permalink)
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    Thanks for your reply. Yes, I can hear the midi tracks. So how do I Bounce tracks or render the MIDI to audio?
    Time to read the manual and do the tutorials. That's one of the most beginner level tasks, right next to opening the program.

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 07:44:22 (permalink)
    Wow, this kid sounds like me. Same comp and everything - Except when I have to read a manual - means your **** is hard to use. I work with many kinds of software for a living go by feel on these things - (it's entertainment not a living).  Never been so frustrated b4 I read the manuals and they are crap. I try watching the vids.. well they may get to something real, but I usually fal asleep or get distracted.

    That said - anyone want to point out how to get midi drums to play on this thing? Have read, and searched, posted and been ignored. I jury rigged one to work by having to place in two tracks - in effect bouncing the track in order to hear th drums while I play. Is this really how it is supposed to work? SHoud I be able to go from SI Drum or whatever out to master?

    Is there a way to changete midi specified in the drum map? only my keys show..nothing else.
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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 08:10:18 (permalink)
    Well..I do agree the manuals are often less than brilliant, sometimes distracting even, but any modern DAW is so complicated, that going by feel means you'll never learn to use them properly. The use of soft synths, though, is explained reasonably well in CWs products, IMO (I have never used MC).

    Be more specific, please.
    So you inserted SD as a softsynth (is there a synth rack in MC6? If there is, that's what you obviously used), and MC created the necessary tracks, one MIDI to send the data to SD, and one audio to receive and play the audio coming from SD (and output to master bus)? Then you load a kit and drag beats to the MIDI track? Now it should work, if MC sees your soundcard drivers. There's no need to bounce in order to hear the drums.

    It really is worth reading the help files. Why should we spoonfeed someone who wants to go by feel, but isn't able to do it?


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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 08:18:50 (permalink)
    Blues maker.... I commented in the other thread you started.... but to address this question...

    Reading the manual and watching the vids has helped me. Especially the one on drums.  I worked through  the video..... pausing it and doing the steps and it worked. I don't use the drums in Music Creator, choosing instead to use third party drum synth software because it's easier and I'm lazy and not a drummer. 

    As far as remapping the drums, you should NOT need to do that at all. I think that is for people with third party drum synths and the notes don't match, drum mapping gives you a way to manually change them. 

    Most 3rd party synths are mapped correctly. 

    No... you should not have to bounce to hear the drums.   Work through the tutorials. They included them for a reason. 

    You may be a " do it by yourself" sort of guy, one who says I don't need the stupid map, but trust me when I say, it's not a bad thing to set down and work the tutorials one by one. You might be familiar with software, and work with it every day, but do not let Cakewalk fool you.... it has a learning curve to it and many guys have come here over the 4+ years I have been here, guys who think the same way as you.... and have been humbled by this software.  Many buckle down and learn, the others quit in frustration and refuse to work the tutorials. This is a cool hobby, and like any hobby, it takes time to learn things. 

    Keep the manual handy for a reference (F1 gets you there) and work the tutorials..... if only the ones you need. They will help you to understand this "beginner's" software faster.  I think Cake's mistake was labeling it as Beginner's software. It is so much more than that. 

    As I said in the other thread.... if you have questions, just ask, we will help. We've ALL been there too.... just starting out and totally lost....well, maybe not all of us, but most of us.  

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 08:57:16 (permalink)
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    We've ALL been there too.... just starting out and totally lost....well, maybe not all of us, but most of us.  
    speak for yourself! 


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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 11:55:39 (permalink)
    How could a beagle be lost? Yeah, your post totally confirms for me it's a drivers issue. Don't knock going by feel. It's a legitimate learning style that is hard to deal with if you are a by the book kind of guy. Doesn't mean I don't know what's going on - just have a different (sometimes more thorough though more pain in the arse) way of getting there.

    I do alot by feel... If I told you what I did for a living by feel, without even a college degree, it would freak you out. Suffice to say you have been at least inderectly affected by me since you are using a computer right now.
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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 12:19:25 (permalink)
    that's OK.  I'm an EE working at "one of the largest government contractors." 

    pretty much everyone on the planet could be affected by what I do for a liviing. 

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 12:43:52 (permalink)
    Oh yeah.... I'm not knocking the "wing it" strategy, I use it quite often myself...  road map, I don't need no stinking road map, and no...we're not lost, I'm just taking the scenic route.   Actually I now use a GPS.... it's more "manly".... 

    And Beagle's comment: "pretty much everyone on the planet could be affected by what I do for a living".... just think nuclear Armageddon, total all out war.... and you're on the right track.  We try to keep him happy....I don't think that's a big red (Staples) "EASY" button on his desk.... just saying...

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 12:50:08 (permalink)
    Awesome... or maybe it is an 'easy button'... depending on your perspective. Thanks for your help and patience. I will get this %*&&^ thing to work. One way, or another.
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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 12:59:03 (permalink)
    That's the fun in this thing..... running into road blocks and solving them. 

    Actually, no.... the fun comes when you get it worked out, and the Drivers, soundcard, and software are all working together like they are designed to do and you can write your next masterpiece without the aggravation and hassle. 

    That's fun. 

    Hang in there and you will get it resolved. 

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/11/29 12:59:25 (permalink)

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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/12/11 03:04:46 (permalink)
    You guy's are fun, and I agree with all of you. Guitarhacker is right, when it all gets worked out and set up then the fun will really begin. And Beagle, don't hit that button....please, at least not until I get this MC6 figured out. I'm no computer pro, I was forced into it by technology, what I do know is by asking questions and figuring it out on my own. Which is part of my problem now. BluesMaker I hear ya, but I know for me if I didn't have the manuals and those tutorials and these folks, willing to answer my newbee questions, I'd be screwed.
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    Re:MC 6 - Can not Record 2011/12/11 07:52:37 (permalink)
    I take paypal. 

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