Rock/punky kinda song. **New Version** See post #20 please!

Here's another one I am getting closer to buttoning up with the band.  I am on drums for this particular song (we switch around a good bit with this band.  (we like to play musical chairs...)
Advice is greatly appreciated here as I have really fought with this one to get it where it is...  It's been a thorn in the side for a few weeks now as the mix just didn't want to sit together.    Thanks Guys/Gals!
 
 
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11276465&q=hi&newref=1

Really cool song. Love the energy.

ChuckC,
Good job overall.  Great drumming!  Vocals are too soft - I can't make out the lyrics (my age showing?).  Check out Alice In Chains mix and note the stereo guitars, drums, bass mix and where the vocals are placed.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXIk45pL0o&feature=fvsr

Rimshot

Hey Chuck,
GREAT song. Your performance on the drums was SMOKIN.  Mix isn't that bad on my end.  If I had a nit, I put my vote also with bringing the lead vox up a bit.  The drums need more spread and are thin sounding. I would play around with the EQ for more mid and low end.  KUDOS!

Kev

ChuckC,

I'd put some distortion an/or chorus on the bass (not quite cutting though IMO) and check for overlapping frequencies on the kick/bass guitar.

Cool song. I like how it flows. That drummer is getting a serious workout!

The low end needs better definition. You can feel the bass and bass drum but there needs to be more in the upper registers to add the definition. Other than that, nice.

Well done!

 
Hi there Chuck
 
This is a really cool song, and I love the energy you guys exude.
 
The mix sounds very good in the quieter parts, but a little muddy when everything kicks in. To me, getting that 'clean' mix with big distorted guitars is the holy grail of this sort of production. If you've been getting some advice from Danny on this, then all I can say is you're in safe hands, he's helped me so much in improving my recording/mixing techniques.
 
Steve

Bapu- Thanks, and you're right...  I haven't upated the file again yet but I will in a day or two.  I went back and tweaked the freq. and alo tried a bit more drive on it and those added harmonics make it nice and distinct.

Thatsastrat-  Yep, that's was buggin' the crap outta me too.  It didn't seems so on the studio monitors but in my truck the guitars on the intro sounded like they were recorded on a 4 track...  Onc the songs in they seems to sit well.  Maybe I'll automate the eq there.

Guitarpima- I've got this issue worked out.  I am ging to take a day or two off, Then I will make a (hopefully) final round of tweaks and repost.
Yep my arms are generally burning at the end of this one, but that's because even though I own a kit (my vdrums) to record/write with it's been about 14 years since I was "the drummer" in an active band so I play but generally not more than 20 minutes at a time.  I lack the stamina for it. =)

Gr- Non the less.  Thanks for listening & I'm glad you like it!

Steve- Thank you very much man, yeah I think I have this sounding better now, I am using very little compression in the mastering phase and most of what you are hearing is the boost11 plug at the end of the chain.  I have now backed this down a bit.  with it off my peaks are bouncing around -4/-6 with it on I have it now  at -.02 and only nipping infrequent peaks barely.  It's not quite as loud but it sounds much better this way.  If that last .2 was that important to me I'd send it to a pro to master it.  I am just not good enough yet to get it there on my own so I'll error on the side of caution now.  These to songs were an eye opener for me in that respect.

James- Thank you sir!

Kev, Thanks man.... I'll check that out.  I am just starting to grasp (the basics of) the art of mixing, mastering... Lookin for that nice warm bottom and still be able to crank it without blowing the speakers out of the truck.  Maybe I should pull that in a hair.

BadASS Bro!!!!

Solid mix, explosive song. I heard the vocals quite well on my monitors. You are on the right track.

Nice job on the remix Chuck - sounds great.

Thank you Steve!

Timidi- I appreciate the compliment sir!  I could try that I suppose.
The only thing I really changed last night (since this mix) was I brought the vocals up a hair, and reversed the panning on the drums to audience perspective.  During the choruses the crash that was on the right here seemed to be clashing with the higher sounding open chorded guitar part on the right.  Reveresed it seems a little less annoying over the chunkier left guitars.  The only issue is that I prefer drummer perspective (especially on this song because I play drums on it) and it's driving me nuts!