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PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
G'day, can someone please advise me on some better audio interfaces for use on windows7 64 bit. I use cakewalk recording software. I have 2 amps, and 2 sets of computer monitor speakers (2 plugs) I'd like to connect it out to. I have a midi keyboard and guitar effects processor that I'd like to be able to connect it in to so I'd need a midi in/out as well. I have no experience with interfaces and need help on what to choose. I don't understand some things such as word clock and ADAT etc. I don't care for added effects etc help would be appreciated . thanks
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2011/12/15 02:53:35
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/15 11:57:13
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if you don't understand word clock or ADAT then you likely don't need them. they are both for integrating more than one soundcard to others. take a look at my website under the RECORDING HELP section. there is advice to read on what questions you need to ask before purchasing a soundcard/interface (same thing) and there's a 2 page recommendation of soundcards to consider (make sure you click on the 2nd page to see the next page, it's a little difficult to navigate, but I haven't had time to fix it).
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2011/12/15 21:40:46
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thanks guys keep the advice coming please all
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spacealf
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2011/12/15 23:42:48
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You probably will want to have studio channels as well. http://www.sweetwater.com/c665--Channel_Strips Of course two outs for two amps and monitors may be a problem, but I use one headphone out for my computer speakers (powered cheap ones) and the regular outs for my stereo (or could be powered monitor speakers of which there are many). If you looked at RME, then according to their news, you seen the one voted the best. I have the Babyface and it does cost, but for me, that is all that I need, and it does a fine job. All you can do is read reviews about units and see which one fits in your budget. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StudioChan/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Babyface http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VoiceWorks/ http://www.sweetwater.com.tore/detail/LSR4328Ppak/ just an idea of different ones they make and what you buy is up to you. And believe me that you can spend way more, and can spend less, and then there are microphones and whatever else you may need if you sing. Of course Roland makes the OctaCapture and their own equipment also, one can look at for a audio interface. Pay more, and have more inputs (mic pre and ADAT or SPDIF or what I don't use as of yet, maybe never).
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2011/12/16 02:18:11
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mmmm nice stuff there but I can't justify that type of quality and cost yet. after looking through this info I can say I'm looking at something like the M-audio fast track pro or cakewalk UA-25EX - that type of thing. I don't need much in terms of connections but I want quality (low latency and a good sound). It's mainly going to be used for backing tracks and constructing songs - not recording in a band situation. definitely want midi connections, line & instrument level inputs, at least stereo outs, headphone outs, USB (my computer has USB1,2&3 ports windows 7 64 bit). preferably 1/4 jack ins/outs mainly the outputs will be to my amps So what would you guys go for based on all this?
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2011/12/16 12:19:13
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I would go with the Fast Track Pro over the UA-25EX. not that the UA-25EX isn't a good unit, but there have been more complaints about driver problems on the forums for that unit than there have been for the FTP, from my perspective, but YMMV. do not plug into a USB 3 port - most devices are still having problems with that. use the USB2 ports.
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spacealf
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2011/12/16 15:18:29
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Latency is inherent from the computer (how fast it is) and the unit (which according to RME will have 3ms (milliseconds - thousanths of a second) inherent in the electronics of any unit, but since they make firewire and USB2 devices, I stick with that. You end up using ASIO drivers which account for the lag or latency. No way around it, but even with a slower computer like mine, it all comes out at the same time. It may take awhile to read about it, but all the knowledge is there on the internet somewhere or else perhaps in a review about whatever unit you may get. I only use the analog 1 & 2 channels on the babyface, and record multiple tracks in Sonar, one say like instrument at a time. I don't intend to spend a lot either, perhaps I spent more than what I thought, but being like a studio is just different than any live stuff. I do it all electronically (modules) instead of try to record guitar amps or anything like that. Headphones or ear-buds are a must though for recording, and listening I guess speakers (monitor speakers be the best) for mix-down and setting levels on everything. Compression helps also, but I try and not use it too much which is on those cheap studio channels from presonnus that I bought as well as parametric EQ and all of that. But then I started out with a computer gaming sound card and finally saw that it really just sucks in the end for recording (and MIDI) for quite a while before getting a more pro type audio interface. That's enough for me, while others have a room insulated and all that stuff, which I will not have even in the future while I guess making a business out of it in a fashion. I am not a business, it's more like a hobby, but even then I suppose some people spend way more on a hobby and some other people do not. It's like a telescope, some people may spend$6000 on a telescope (there are more expensive ones) and some people spend way more even to the point of building like an observatory, while most people spend around $500 to $1500 on a telescope and some people even less than that.
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/16 15:24:44
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I don't have monitor speakers ( I have a stereo amp and speakers from long ago that I can use). And the only thing I can say is I think none of it is worth what they are asking for it in this day and age on about anything that can be bought and some corporations are worse than others. I suppose I have seen where probably quite a few people buy used equipment on e-bay or whatever I guess on craigslist but I have not use that yet, so long as you know what you are getting by buying used.
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2011/12/16 15:29:23
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And they do have way more expensive equipment also. I mean like the RME UFX whatever it is costs $2099, and there are people who do buy that also. The prices can go way up there and expensive equipment can be bought. Way out of my price range!
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/16 15:36:42
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It's all there though and I was just mentioning some of what you may need, but what you buy is up to you. It takes awhile to go through everything and read about it and all that on just the audio interfaces, so in the end I can recommend nothing to you and you will have to take the steps to see what you want. It is in all price ranges though, and that is for sure. And still they have more at online stores like that for equipment, or even at a local store where you may order equipment or buy equipment.
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/16 16:20:06
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Roland QuadCapture- Lance
Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS Motherboard i7 3770k CPU 32 gigs RAM Presonus AudioBox iTwo Windows 10 64 bit, SONAR PLATINUM 64 bit Lots of plugins and softsynths and one shot samples, loops Gauge ECM-87, MCA SP-1, Alesis AM51 Presonus Eureka Mackie HR824's and matching subwoofer
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2011/12/16 17:51:56
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Lanceindastudio Roland QuadCapture- Lance Roland QuadCapture this is the sort of thing I'm after. I want to find out which are the better ones similar to the features this has. Can people give me comparison ratings of other brands similar to this eg M-audio fast track pro
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2011/12/16 17:55:05
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spacealf It's all there though and I was just mentioning some of what you may need, but what you buy is up to you. It takes awhile to go through everything and read about it and all that on just the audio interfaces, so in the end I can recommend nothing to you and you will have to take the steps to see what you want. It is in all price ranges though, and that is for sure. And still they have more at online stores like that for equipment, or even at a local store where you may order equipment or buy equipment. You have mentioned some really good stuff there don't get me wrong but it's too much for what I need. the missus would go off her rocker.
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/16 19:06:12
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box bundy Lanceindastudio Roland QuadCapture- Lance Roland QuadCapture
this is the sort of thing I'm after. I want to find out which are the better ones similar to the features this has. Can people give me comparison ratings of other brands similar to this eg M-audio fast track pro did you look at my website? I have a comparison chart there. the octacapture is not on it, but you can look up the octacapture and compare it to several other units.
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Beagle box bundy Lanceindastudio Roland QuadCapture- Lance Roland QuadCapture
this is the sort of thing I'm after. I want to find out which are the better ones similar to the features this has. Can people give me comparison ratings of other brands similar to this eg M-audio fast track pro did you look at my website? I have a comparison chart there. the octacapture is not on it, but you can look up the octacapture and compare it to several other units. yep had a look and it helps alot. just seeking as many opinions as I can
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/16 20:58:26
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at the moment it's looking like the quad capture vs m-audio fastrack pro the m-audio fastrack ultra would cost me about $170 more than these and I'd also have to wait for it to get to me. I can get the quad capture for $230 and fastrack pro for $240 locally in Australia. what do you guys reckon is best? I'm thinking the quad capture ATM
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/17 06:07:32
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If you're looking to create a studio style environment don't undervalue acoustics. Auralex foam is good stuff, and there are other alternatives that are equally as good. Rock wool, a box bigger than me sits right behind me waiting to be be placed in bass traps. Even in its box it makes the room sound better. Owens Corning 703 rigid fiberglass is even better - here it runs $8.97 US per 24" x 48" panel. You can buy all the expensive gear in the world but if it sounds like crap because of room acoustics it's worthless, and if your mixes aren't portable...well...same thing. I'm currently wishing I had placed more importance on it myself, now I'm shelling out the bucks.
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Re:PLEASE HELP AUDIO INTERFACE ADVICE
2011/12/19 17:02:07
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thanks for the advice. I'm going for the quad capture. I read nothing but praise for this unit and nothing but complaints of noise and unreliability with most of the m-audio stuff. I've even read of the fastrack pro smoking up in more than 1 instance
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