Strike It Rich-New Mix!

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2011/12/21 21:06:32 (permalink)

Strike It Rich-New Mix!

 
I'm in the process of doing the final mix for the tunes on my next CD. This is the first one I've tackled, I'd appreciate any feedback anyone could give me. Does this sound like a final mix to you? 
  
Strike It Rich 
 
Thanks for listening, hope you like it!
 
(uh, I was a little stressed the day I wrote it, LOL)
 
Progress Report:
I've done some tweaking (see my post below) hope it's better now.
I've had a fair amount of questions about the instrumentation on this tune so here's what I used:
 
All guitars are my Les Paul through a Fender Hot Rod DeVille 2X12 amp
Bass is my Yamaha w/Bartolini pickups recorded direct
Piano is the Amber True Piano module
Violin is Dimension Pro synth
Drums are Session Drummer 3
 
The song was actually recorded in SONAR 8 PE and mixed in SONAR X1c Expanded 
 
Thanks for all the interest!!
post edited by rscain - 2011/12/26 15:17:21

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    radio
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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/21 22:16:13 (permalink)

    This is a cool song , I love the vocals and the way you mixed them . The music sounds great but the mix isn't working 100% in my ears for some strange reason .
    Maybe its the organ sound throwing me a curve , after a while you sort get used to it .

    Cool song I like it ! Radio

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/21 22:32:47 (permalink)
    Really enjoyed the tune and your vocals on it. Nice guitar break. On my system I'm wanting to hear a touch more low end and slightly less snap/high end on the snare. The mix sounds very close. Great work!
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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/21 23:36:54 (permalink)
    The lead reminds me of an Allman Bros lead.

    The drums are all wrong sound wise. Too compressed? The bass is to low with little definition. The bass drum needs more oomph.

    Other than that, great tune!

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/22 10:52:56 (permalink)
    This is a good song with strong performances.  I agree with Guitarpima, somewhat, regarding the drums.  I hear a bit too much reverb on the drums which make them sound as if they are in a different space that the rest of the instruments.  At least, something is filling in the places where I think the use of space makes more sense.  In other words, the mix sounds stacked rather than wide and airy.  All else sounds very entertaining to my ears.  I think just a small tweek or two and you'll be good to go.

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/22 10:54:20 (permalink)
    "I guess I had something on my mind that day."


    I guess so.


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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/23 21:15:51 (permalink)
    Excellent playing and arrangement, but i have to agree about the drums letting the side down.  They do sound overly-compressed and too bright for the track.

    The bass lacks some ddefinition as it's difficult to distinguish between notes sometimes.

    Loved the lead guitar solo and tone. Is it a strat?

    With some work on the mix this track will show it's true potential.

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/24 13:00:27 (permalink)
    Good song and I do like the performance.  It seems to these tired old ears though that the drums dominate the entire song, and they just don't have the sound to carry the whole tune.  It would work much better as a live performance, but I think that as a recording they (the drums) need to occupy more audio space somehow and not take up the majority of the amplitude. 
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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/24 16:49:14 (permalink)
    I dunno about the complaints about the drums. I think it makes it unusual and not just another 'standards compliant' tune. I think it's not a bad thing to have these 'too loud' type things in songs sometimes, to make them stand out and have a character of their own.
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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/24 18:38:39 (permalink)
    Nice tune, Bob.  I really enjoyed it.  As far as the mix goes, I guess I'd like to hear a bit more bottom and the drums laid back a bit more, but some of that could be a matter of taste as opposed to what's objectively 'right or wrong.'  If it came out the way you wanted it, that's good.
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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/25 12:56:32 (permalink)
    Guitarpima



    The drums are all wrong sound wise. Too compressed? The bass is to low with little definition. The bass drum needs more oomph.

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/26 08:32:38 (permalink)
    I've got to join in with the drums and bass.
    The vocals, piano, and guitars are great though - it's on it's way.

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/26 15:10:10 (permalink)
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    Droddey, Phil, Bapu, Slugbaby

    Thanks so much for taking the time to listen and comment, it's much appreciated! I think the consensus opinion was pretty much right on, so I've done some tweaking, mellowed the drums a bit (although just a bit, I wanted the drums to kinda "push" the tune along) and brought the bottom out a little more. Thanks again guys you're what makes this forum the BEST!

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/28 17:28:25 (permalink)
    Got a little bit of a cajon vibe on the intro.

    Excellent guitar solo!

    Nice to hear this style of playing/performance.


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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/28 19:20:01 (permalink)
    Sounding good Bob. The main ingredient in my mind to this song is the message. Your lyric prowess on this is really incredible. The mix, to me, is irrelevant. I'm not sure if the busy drums detract or not. Maybe I'm old, but, I'd just as well hear the lyric more in my face without much distraction. It all does sort of bang you over the head as you listen. BTW, I love the turn around thing you did. Did you program those drums? If so, HOW?

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/28 22:27:39 (permalink)
      I could almost hear the guitars blended into more of a stereo effect but thats just me. Great tune!

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/30 16:55:26 (permalink)

    IHansen- Yeah, the intro with the violin and such is sorta Cajun I reckon. Thanks so much for the kind words!

    Starise- Not sure what you mean by blending the guitars in stereo but thanks for listening and I'm really glad you like the tune!

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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/30 17:16:41 (permalink)
    Yes, this sounds like a final mix.  I haven't heard this for a few days, and it seems more polished than before.  This is a good song, and I wish you well.

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    Re:Strike It Rich 2011/12/30 17:18:25 (permalink)
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    Sounding good Bob. The main ingredient in my mind to this song is the message. Your lyric prowess on this is really incredible. The mix, to me, is irrelevant. I'm not sure if the busy drums detract or not. Maybe I'm old, but, I'd just as well hear the lyric more in my face without much distraction. It all does sort of bang you over the head as you listen. BTW, I love the turn around thing you did. Did you program those drums? If so, HOW?

    Thank you so much Tim, the lyrics on this one are a bit different for me. Like I said on the song page, I had some stuff on my mind that day, LOL.
    Actually I wanted the music to kinda "bang you over the head". It kinda seems to me like that's the way life is these days, we're just constantly bombarded with a cacaphony of bullsh*t and it makes it hard to concentrate on what's really important, ya know? Well, enough of the preaching. heh
    Glad you liked the little bridge turnaround thingy, it was a lot of fun to do and again, not my usual style.
    Most of the drums are stock midi patterns from Groove Monkee that I sorta "massaged" a bit, pushing some hits ahead of the beat, moving some behind, etc. except for the turnaround, I had to pretty much do all of that one. I program drums in the piano roll view, it's more work that way but that's the way I've always done it. I never got used to using the step sequencer or anyting else.
    All my midi is done that way. It takes more time but it ain't like I got anything else I'd rather be doing.
     
    Anyway, sorry for being so long winded, and thanks again for all the great comments!

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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/30 17:20:13 (permalink)
    Lynn


    Yes, this sounds like a final mix.  I haven't heard this for a few days, and it seems more polished than before.  This is a good song, and I wish you well.


    Hey Lynn, thanks, it's really great of you to take a second listen, I really appreciate it!!

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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/30 18:02:07 (permalink)
    Great song and I really like your voice on the song. You remind me of someone that I can't put my finger on. I like everything about the song except the organ/trumpet sound that is at the beginning. It gives the song a tinny, midi feel to me. Overall, great job.
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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/30 19:16:02 (permalink)
    ahh, groove monkey... Never tried any o them there midi loops. I think I should.

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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/30 20:47:15 (permalink)
    This is a cool song.  After a few more listens - either you have tuned down the drums or I'm starting to realize that I just don't like the snare.  Not the tempo or where it sits in the tune/mix, I just don't like the sound of this snare.  I think I'd put a monster notch on it from 5K - 7 or 8K or so. 
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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/31 12:01:53 (permalink)
    Everyone's got you covered on mix ideas Bob, so I'll just chime in and say this is a well written, well performed song. Good one.

     
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    Re:Strike It Rich-New Mix! 2011/12/31 13:08:38 (permalink)
    I agree that the snare could use some EQ, but more in the lower mids rather that the 5-8kz range.  I think it has enough upper harmonics the way it is,  but could use a little low end punch.  There may also be another snare drum in SD that would be more appropriate.  Even if it stays the same, it is a good effort.
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    This is a cool song.  After a few more listens - either you have tuned down the drums or I'm starting to realize that I just don't like the snare.  Not the tempo or where it sits in the tune/mix, I just don't like the sound of this snare.  I think I'd put a monster notch on it from 5K - 7 or 8K or so. 



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