Air Travel with a Guitar

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2011/12/28 11:32:45 (permalink)

Air Travel with a Guitar

My daughter frequently flies with her violin, but on an international trip yesterday the airlines initially told her she couldn't carry it in the cabin with her.  Luckily we found information on their website that she used to argue and get to carry it on.  (Just for reference of violin vs. guitar, think of how much we guitarist would pay for a fine instrument then multiply by 5 to 10 to get a sense of fine violin prices.)

Anyway, I travel a lot and see a lot of people traveling with guitars but have never seen someone carrying on on-board.  Have any of you flown with a guitar?  What as your experience?  Were you allowed to carry the guitar on-board?  Did they stow it somewhere special in the cabin?

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    jamesg1213
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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 11:42:25 (permalink)
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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 12:14:47 (permalink)
    I used to fly with my Les Paul all the time. They would store it for me in a closet type area near the front of the plane. Like many other things, 9/11 changed things.

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 12:55:41 (permalink)
    When traveling though airports, I too have seen many people carrying guitars and other instruments. This is past the check in and security so I can only assume that they are carry on instruments. 

    Smaller ones like violins will fit in the overhead bins but I'm guessing that most are placed in the crew storage area at the front of the plane where you generally enter the cabin. Of course, that depends on the space being available and the stewardess allowing it to go there. 

    I have also seen some airlines request people to allow their large "carry on bags" to be stowed in the hold by the ground crew, after all the checked baggage is loaded. I have had several of my bags handled this way, especially on those really small commuter hops. 

    I even asked a few musicians with guitars about this and the response was that they asked nicely to store it in the crew storage. Sometimes it worked and sometimes not. 

    In my several trips to Argentina, knowing that I was a musician, I was asked to bring my guitar. I declined each time simply because of the hassle and expense and regulations on it, asking instead for someone in Argentina to provide a guitar when I would need one. That worked out OK.

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 12:57:28 (permalink)
    Thanks guys.  Funny video, and I've heard enough guitar-airline horror stories to tell her to never let them take her violin from her.  (As all of you know, the money is only part of it, an instrument can become a very personal item and irreplaceable.)

    I'm still wondering what people do with their guitars... I saw at least 3 people with guitars at the airport yesterday.  Do they take them at the jetway and put them somewhere special or what?

    Randy... yeah, stupid terrorists screwed things up for everyone.  After they started making us remove our shoes I joked that there'd better never be an underwear bomber.... now we have the full body scanners.  Maybe someday they'll just have us strip and give us a white robe and flip-flops for the rest of our journey.  (But seriously, I support the TSA, the lives they are protecting are ours.)

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 13:07:26 (permalink)
    Hi,

    Got to admit ... never seen anyone just start playing the guitar and get everyone's attention ... oppppsss I lied ... there was this first class cabin, and they don't usually tell those folks they can't have their guitar ... Tom Petty would not like it and would trash your airline, or some other big name ... but in regular and economy class ... I doubt it.

    Wasn't it the Concorde that also had some accoustic musicians do shows during the flight?

    After 9/11 things changed ... wonderful excuse to make sure that we remove the arts from people's lives so we can concentrate on other areas! And we have no choice but agree with it.

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 13:11:47 (permalink)
    Well to be fair, I can understand why they would want to restrict guitars.

    After all, many people have fled in terror after seeing me strap on a guitar (and that's on a "good" day).

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 13:15:30 (permalink)
    It's not uncommon to "gate check" special baggage that you carry through to the gate and then turn it over for special handling there.

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 14:27:21 (permalink)
    I bought an accoustic guitar with a small body and standard neck for 50€ in Shanghai.

    Great for hotel rooms, and it goes in the overhead bins perfectly.

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 14:32:47 (permalink)
    drewfx1


    Well to be fair, I can understand why they would want to restrict guitars.

    After all, many people have fled in terror after seeing me strap on a guitar (and that's on a "good" day).


    I was thinking of bringing my flute with me ... next time, just to see if they think anything ... or maybe my drumsticks that I keep in the car ...

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 14:45:53 (permalink)
    Hmmm, well I suspect Mike has got it with the gate check.  I still wouldn't feel comfortable doing that unless I had a really tough case. 

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 14:54:55 (permalink)
    We do it with video gear... it is never comfortable and it is always stressful.

    What we often do is check the camera bag at the gate and take the camera and footage on board to stuff it in the overhead in blankets. Sometimes we have to disassemble the camera into lens, body, and viewfinder etc. It all has to happen fast and with flexibility to the situation at the moment.

    We try hard to get to board the plane before it's filled up.

    We also have loads of checked gear in travel cases getting slammed around but usually everything but the light bulbs will show up fine. Usually the light bulbs do too.



    I used to casually take a guitar with me when I was a young guy... those days are gone.



    I think it might be worth inquiring with other traveling violinists to see if there are any favorable policies on specific service providers.

    Good luck.


    best regards,
    mike





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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2011/12/28 15:53:23 (permalink)
    Because of restrictions in the number of luggages I could take here w/ me, the only option I had was to take my cheaper guitar, unbolt the neck, and place it in my luggage, carefully wrapping in layers and layers of clothes. Not something I'd recommend doing with your best guitar or if you can avoid it, but this time, I had no alternative. And worst case scenario, I'd have bought a new one here if anything happened.

    At any rate, there's just no way I'd take anything too precious w/ me, certainly not my main guitar.

    I'm still trying to find a solution for our flight to Russia in January.

    One of my buddies who plays gigs across Canada regularly told me he never had problems taking his electric w/ him onboard in a gig bag and passing it as his hand luggage, but I haven't tried that myself and non-domestic flights might have different policies.



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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2012/10/05 13:22:16 (permalink)
     
    "A musician named Dave Carroll recently had difficulty with United Airlines. United apparently damaged his treasured Taylor guitar ($3500) during a flight. Dave spent over 9 months trying to get United to pay for damages caused by baggage handlers to his custom Taylor guitar. During his final exchange with the United Customer Relations Manager, he stated that he was left with no choice other than to create a music video for YouTube exposing their lack of cooperation.
     
    The Manager responded: “Good luck with that one, pal.”
     
    So he posted a retaliatory video on YouTube. The video has since received over 6 million hits. United Airlines contacted the musician and attempted settlement in exchange for pulling the video.  Naturally his response was: “Good luck with that one, pal.”
     
    Taylor Guitars sent the  musician 2 new custom guitars in appreciation for the product recognition from the video that has led to a sharp increase in orders. Here’s the video, and it’s GREAT!  A Must Watch."  
     
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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2012/10/05 13:41:46 (permalink)
    There should be no probem with a violin being carry-on. It isn't that big.Shemay have to get a large laptop bag and use it for double duty laptop/purse. Don't most airlines allow a purse or similar bag and a small carry-on bag?

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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2012/10/05 15:16:21 (permalink)
    I have seen once a guys trying to put overhead a contrabass, fly attendant told him: it won't fit, put it under the seat...
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    Re:Air Travel with a Guitar 2012/10/05 15:29:48 (permalink)
    I've been told to stow my air guitar when travelling...

     
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