Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know?

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2011/12/29 14:27:46 (permalink)

Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know?

Use a Tascam FW1884. Building a new computer. Need to include a TI Chipset Firwire card. Other than being TI Chipset, is there anything else I need to know ?

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    StarTekh
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 15:03:06 (permalink)
    The following FireWire chipsets have been tested and approved......


    LSI (Agere) Chipset Type
    LSI (Agere) FW322 PCI
    LSI (Agere) FW323 PCI
    TI FW643 PCI Express
    TI TSB43A PCI
    TI TSB82A PCI
    TI TSB83A PCI
    TI XIO2200 PCI Express
    VIA XIO2213 PCI Express
        VT6306 PCI
    VIA VT6307
    VIA VT6308
    Notes
    PCI
    PCI
    On some older motherboards, this chipset will only support
    a limited number of playback channels: 32 channels at 44.1
    or 48 kHz; 16 channels at 88.2 or 96 kHz

    and

    HP
    Syba
    Sabrent
    SIIG
    StarTech
    Syba
    Model
    PA997A
    SD-LUD-4F
    SBT-VT6306
    NN-400012-SA
    EC13941A1B
    SD-EXPC34-2F
    Manufacturer
    Lucent
    Eforcity
    Micropac
    Agere
    StarTech
    ExSys
    Model
    IEEE1394a
    PCRDFW31CON1
    SBT-VT6306
    151PCI394015
    EC13942
    EX-16415

    The following FireWire chipsets have been tested and found to be incompatible....

    JMicron
    JMicron
    JMicron
    NEC
    NEC
    NEC
    NEC
    NEC
    Chipset
    JMB381
    JMB382
    JMB3838
    D72870
    D72871
    D72872
    D72873
    D72874
    Type
    PCI Express
    PCI Express
    PCI Express
    PCI
    PCI
    PCI
    PCI
    PCI
    Notes
    This card has limited functionality. If the listed amount of
    playback channels is exceeded, or if there is other
    significant traffic on the bus (DV cam, hard drive, etc) the
    card will fail and will not work until after a reboot:
    48 channels at 44.1 or 48 kHz, 24 channels at 88.2 or 96kHz



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    DeeringAmps
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 15:47:52 (permalink)
    If this is your first move to Win 7 you might want to take a look at the tutorial below.
    http://deeringamps.com/fw1884/sonarx1b_fw1884.htm

    Tom

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 16:30:52 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps


    If this is your first move to Win 7 you might want to take a look at the tutorial below.
    http://deeringamps.com/fw1884/sonarx1b_fw1884.htm

    Tom



       Deering: thanks I dont have a 1884 unit....
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 18:57:22 (permalink)
    any idea what the 400 Mbps or 800 Mbps means ?  Do I need to be concerned about 32 or 64 bit? Would either of these cards work:

    http://www.amazon.com/Syba-SD-FWB-64B-Chipset-800Mbps-400Mbps/dp/B000Z80JZI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325202671&sr=1-3 


    Syba SD-FWB-64B TI Chipset 64-Bit 2x 1394b (800Mbps), 1x 1394a (400Mbps) Ports, Card Only

    -------------------
    Or this one: http://www.virtech.ca/detailProduct.php?str=SY-29SDVIA3F&currency=USD

    PCI Firewire 1394a 2 ports controller card based on VIA VT6307
    Firewire 1394a ports: External x2 & Internal x1
    PCI 2.2 compliant
    PC99 ACPI Compliant
    Transfer rate: Each port up to 400Mbps
    Meets all OHCI and 1394A requirements
    External port: 1394a x 2
    Internal port: 1394a x 1.


    Had no idea of all of the options / reqs!

    Thanks to all!

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 19:04:12 (permalink)
    Thanks to both DeeringAmps and StarTekh

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 19:08:30 (permalink)
    you want a stock 400 Mbps card...

    Do I need to be concerned about 32 or 64 bit...no
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/29 21:39:50 (permalink)
    Awesome!! Thanks friends!

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 00:56:27 (permalink)
    Tracey,
    One thing to keep in mind, does the new motherboard have a PCI slot?
    The ADS Pyro card I once used is a PCI card, it worked flawlessly.
    I have a "newer" ADS Pyro PCI-e card, but I haven't had to use it because both my
    Gigabyte boards have on board TI firewire.
    In doing a quick search I see that the Pyro PCI-e card was discontinued back in May.
    Many have/do use the Adaptec 4300 with good results. It is PCI, I'm not sure what the equivalent PCI-e card is.
    I would stick with the TI chipset, but that's just me.
    HTH,
    T

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 01:33:26 (permalink)
    I have never had any success using my FW-1884 qith anything but TI chipsets.

    This is what I'm using right now in my ASUS  mobo that has onboard VIA chipset (a no go).

    http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=249082
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 02:16:30 (permalink)
    I have never had any success using my FW-1884 qith anything but TI chipsets.

     
    The FW-1884 is particular about the FW controller.
    If you're configuring a new DAW, I wouldn't consider anything other than a quality TI chipset FW controller.

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 09:57:53 (permalink)
    I can't "vouch" for the PCI-e Pyro, I have one in a box, but only as a "backup".
    The PCI version worked great on my old XP rig.
    My StudioCat and the FW are having this steamy affair so I'll just leave well enough alone!
    Bapu can vouch for the Belkin; no-brainer!

    T

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 10:28:31 (permalink)
    +1 for the adaptec 4300 

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 10:30:51 (permalink)
    dj,
    You're using the PCI model, right?
    Is there a PCI-e version?

    T

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 10:37:30 (permalink)
    The DM4800 and DM3200 (and their firewirecard) I have tested and found to be working with firewire 800 and a firewire 800 to 400 cable. I have worked with that setup on severall machines (all Mac) at severall places and they all work. No customer ever complained about this setup.

    So maybe a firewire800 pci-e card might be a good thing...

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 10:42:04 (permalink)
    Yeah Im using Pci My MB supports both .. I'm not sure if there's a PCI-E version , pretty sure there isn't.. At least not for the adaptec cards.. Anyhow it works perfect here, I also followed your instructions to a tee, as far as setting it up as a legacy driver with windows 7.  My advice is Anyone who decides to use the Fw should check out your resources and follow your instructions..    

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 10:53:47 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps


    Bapu can vouch for the Belkin; no-brainer!

    It seems just because I have no brain I'm still able to vouch for the Belkin.


    Thanks Tom.




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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2011/12/30 11:47:31 (permalink)
    Muziekschuur,
    So the "little" port will work, good news!
    dj,
    Thanks, the 4300 works well for many, I can't remember why I ended up with the Pyro.





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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/02 15:19:27 (permalink)
    StarTekh
    The following FireWire chipsets have been tested and approved......


    LSI (Agere) Chipset Type
    LSI (Agere) FW322 PCI
    LSI (Agere) FW323 PCI
    TI FW643 PCI Express
    TI TSB43A PCI
    TI TSB82A PCI
    TI TSB83A PCI
    TI XIO2200 PCI Express
    VIA XIO2213 PCI Express
       VT6306 PCI
    VIA VT6307
    VIA VT6308
    Notes
    PCI
    PCI
    On some older motherboards, this chipset will only support
    a limited number of playback channels: 32 channels at 44.1
    or 48 kHz; 16 channels at 88.2 or 96 kHz



    Hi folks....
     
    Does the above mean I can use the FW 1884  directly with any of the above  instead of a PCI or PCIe card with a TI chipset...
     
    Thanks
     
     
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/03 09:18:45 (permalink)
    Startech listed them as "approved".
    for what? by whom? He also said he doesn't have an 1884.
    If you want the FW to work; I'd get a TI chipset.
    There's a utility on my 1884 pages that will test for the TI chipset.
    Of course the card will have to be installed to test it.
     
    T

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/03 12:08:34 (permalink)
    IIRC, There were two specific TI Chipset Firewire controllers that were recommended for the 1884
    • SIIG
    • ADS Pyro
    Tascam, Mackie, and UA Firewire audio interfaces are finicky (even with the specific TI chipset) when it comes to Firewire controllers.

    Best Regards,

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/04 11:18:24 (permalink)
    Thanks Tom and Jim...currently Device manager identifies "VIA" for th ehost controller....will run the utility and go from there.
     
     
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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/04 17:28:04 (permalink)
    I think I have a SIIG 400/800 firewire combo and it is fine.

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/04 23:25:41 (permalink)
    Awhile back in this thread, TraceyStudios asked this:
     
    "any idea what the 400 Mbps or 800 Mbps means ?"
     
    I'm pretty sure everyone on this thread knows this, but in case you don't, the FW-1884 came out long before there existed the 800 speed firewire.
     

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    Re:Firewire PCI card TI Chipset & FW1884. What Else should I know? 2014/06/05 12:30:17 (permalink)
    riojazz
    Awhile back in this thread, TraceyStudios asked this:
     
    "any idea what the 400 Mbps or 800 Mbps means ?"
     
    I'm pretty sure everyone on this thread knows this, but in case you don't, the FW-1884 came out long before there existed the 800 speed firewire.
     




    Firewire 400 vs. Firewire 800
    Firewire 800 has double the bandwidth
    For 99.9% of end users, it's a moot point as they're not running enough I/O to be anywhere close to saturating Firewire 400.
     
    Fireface UFX is a good example
    You can run 30 channels of I/O via Firewire 400 or USB-2
    30 channels of I/O is enough for all but huge commercial facilities.
     

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