ChuckC
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Saffire pro 40 question(s)
Just got this new interface last week, so far I like it alot. A big improvement over the m audio fastrack pro. I like the mic pre's so far and the multiple hedphone outs, plus the mute and dim functions for the monitors are a nice touch. I have played around in the mix controller software (included) which seems fairly intuitive and It does seem to give me a low/no latency way to track when I tick the Zero latency tracking on (which is both great and odd at the same time because in the ASIO panel it shows a round trip latency of over 12 ms whereas the m audio showed 10.5ms)
I assume this is because I am now monitoring direct before it runs through the daw. I do find it odd that when hitting play, rewind or even arming a track to record my daw now has about 2 second delay to respond? So I keep finding myself clicking again thinking I missed the button or something.
My other question is this.... How do you set it up to add FX (comps, verbs etc) in the mix control to both monitor with them and no latency? and will it then record those FX or no? I don't see an FX box there to add anything to?
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/03 10:58:46
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ChuckC
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/03 15:02:05
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I appreciate the heads up CjbAn but I don't see version 2.2 on the website anymore? Where might I find it?
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/03 16:32:28
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ChuckC
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/03 16:36:23
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The .exe file or .dmg ? (dumb question... figured it out) Thank you for your help here sir!
post edited by ChuckC - 2012/01/03 17:51:09
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/13 05:25:49
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Hi Chuck, The Sonar record arm bug had now been fixed in a beta release of Saffire Mix control, version 2.4.1. You can download it form here: beta.focusrite.com If you continue to have issue please get in touch with us via the contact form: http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/contact.php Will Focusrite Tech Support
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/13 06:56:52
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I've used a Saffire Pro 40 for the last three years. Sadly it's developed a dropout problem after it warms up. I also have an MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R and the preamps in the Saffire Pro 40 are far superior to the Fastrack Ultra 8R, although I get lower latency with the Fastrack Ultra 8R. I consider the Saffire Pro 40's preamps as "transparent" - or what you input is what is recorded. For example, I recorded a clean (dry-no effects) pedal steel track and needed to fix a spot. The Safire Pro 40 was down waiting on a new AC power switch so I decided to fix the steel track using the Fastrack Ultra 8R (with the identical input). The fixed part was more on the treble side and was obviously noticeable compared to the rest of the track. I had to wait until I repaired the Saffire Pro 40 so I could fix the track properly. Having given the Saffire Pro 40 a glowing report, because of the heat problem (and it's out of warranty and the repair estimate is almost what I paid for it) I have just replaced the Saffire Pro 40 with a Roland Octa-Capture. I had always said if the Saffire Pro 40 goes "belly up" that I would replace it with another, but I'm through with Firewire. If Focusrite would have had a comparable (8 XLR preamp channel) unit comparable to the Saffire Pro 40 I would have probably bought that.
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ChuckC
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/13 17:32:13
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Will- Thanks sir, yep I got that update a week or so ago. Glad to see you on here! I'll be honest it was a bit of a turnoff that I could not reach your phone support, it kept telling me the number (overseas for us here in the states) you have on the website is wrong.... "check the # and try again". I think since ya sell so many units here in the states that they really should have a US/Canada support line don't ya think?
By the way - If I am monitoring through mix contol rather than through the daw (to achieve lower latency) how can I add Fx to the chain? both to be recorded or not? Let me explain, I don't see an Fx bin of any sort in mix control to let a vocalist monintor with some reverb? I am sure there is a way though and I need to now how to set it up both to record the effect and how not to... I may want to record bass with compression going in and keep it, Vocal FX probably not ya know?
Fireberd- Yeah I read about your troubles with the pro 40 in another post. Sorry to hear it. I like the unit so far. I however am getting much lower/no latency by monitoring through mix control with the pro 40 than I could get with My fastrack pro... Granted, in the asio panel it shows a round trip latency that is actually higher on the saffie pro than with the m-audio but since I am not monitoring through the daw thus far it has been a non-issue for me. I am getting seemingly zero latency and can record vocals and do punch ins with out any of the old distractions.
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ChuckC
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/01/17 20:36:53
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ChuckC
By the way - If I am monitoring through mix contol rather than through the daw (to achieve lower latency) how can I add Fx to the chain? both to be recorded or not? Let me explain, I don't see an Fx bin of any sort in mix control to let a vocalist monintor with some reverb? I am sure there is a way though and I need to now how to set it up both to record the effect and how not to... I may want to record bass with compression going in and keep it, Vocal FX probably not ya know?
Can anyone answer this question?
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/02/04 10:30:10
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C:
There are no DSP or Hardware effects on the SP40. You can only monitor effects through Sonar's FX bin on channel and Bus - this will NOT be with zero latency.
I sometimes use my SP40 for overdubs depending on the DAW rig I am using in the studio. When I have a client (vocalist) for example that needs reverb in the headphones during an overdub - I use outboard processing on the Cue send to achieve that - works perfectly.
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/02/04 13:21:40
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Thanks Dom, I have an Outboard Alesis Rack FX unit in my live PA rack that I almost never use. I'll have to pull it out ans put t in my studio rack so I can use it for this. I am sure there is a way to route the return to a separate input so that It will be audible in the cans without recording the effect. I'll figure it out.
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Re:Saffire pro 40 question(s)
2012/02/04 21:53:19
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C:
There are several ways, it really depends on how you have your cue mix set up and how many people you are sending cue mixes to. If you only have one cue mix - you could create a send in Sonar of the soloed voice into a HW output on the SP40, then route that to the outboard effect, and then back into the SP40 in the mix tab where your cue mix is. Set the Effect to 100% Wet and then use the fader on the SP40 to bring in the reverb for just the vocal. Works perfectly
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