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Is Roland really this backwards
Out soon will be there new software call rmix and it will only be released as a 32 app really makes no sense ..very upsetting .. Who designs programs just in 32 bit only anymore ..
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 09:36:15
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Welcome to an exciting new era of “visual” audio manipulation. R-MIX software — powered by Roland’s newly developed V-Remastering technology in conjunction with VariPhrase — lets you see the components of a stereo mix as color-coded clouds of energy and harmonic matter as the song plays! Select your desired components of the mix, and freely edit them — an impossible task in the past. You can change panning positions and levels to individual instruments within a stereo mix, for example, and add effects to each element as desired. You can even independently adjust the pitch and speed of the playback, realized with VariPhrase. How does this power translate to you? You can use R-MIX to easily create “minus-one” type karaoke files from existing songs by lowering the level of a pre-recorded vocal or any other instrument you select within each mix. You can also create your own remixes and mash-ups by using two pairs of stereo tracks within R-MIX. As a skill-building tool, R-MIX can be used to isolate any desired instrument within a mix, and then solo and slow down that element for study; isolate a fast guitar solo, for example, and slow it down to learn it. R-MIX can be used to clean up old recordings and master stereo mixes by adjusting individual instrument levels and applying noise reduction and effects, and all with ease and at a high level of sound quality. color coded clouds of energy?????? 
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 10:40:57
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Welcome to an exciting new era of “visual” audio manipulation. R-MIX software — powered by Roland’s newly developed V-Remastering technology in conjunction with VariPhrase — lets you see the components of a stereo mix as color-coded clouds of energy and harmonic matter as the song plays! Select your desired components of the mix, and freely edit them — an impossible task in the past. You can change panning positions and levels to individual instruments within a stereo mix, for example, and add effects to each element as desired. You can even independently adjust the pitch and speed of the playback, realized with VariPhrase.
How does this power translate to you? You can use R-MIX to easily create “minus-one” type karaoke files from existing songs by lowering the level of a pre-recorded vocal or any other instrument you select within each mix. You can also create your own remixes and mash-ups by using two pairs of stereo tracks within R-MIX. As a skill-building tool, R-MIX can be used to isolate any desired instrument within a mix, and then solo and slow down that element for study; isolate a fast guitar solo, for example, and slow it down to learn it. R-MIX can be used to clean up old recordings and master stereo mixes by adjusting individual instrument levels and applying noise reduction and effects, and all with ease and at a high level of sound quality.
color coded clouds of energy??????
This is the corporation that has control of the company producing your favorite software sequencer. Does that bother you a bit? It just tears me up inside.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 11:02:19
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Out soon will be there new software call rmix and it will only be released as a 32 app really makes no sense ..very upsetting .. Who designs programs just in 32 bit only anymore ..
Ummm...Avid with ProTools for one. I am not saying it makes sense but that is the most obvious one. Vote with your wallet and don't buy it if this is an issue. Ken
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 11:42:52
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Think about it: how would an application such as this benefit from 64-bit code?
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 12:19:21
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Think about it: how would an application such as this benefit from 64-bit code?
The "color-coded clouds of energy and harmonic matter" could be much biggerer and betterer? 
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 12:53:47
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This is the corporation that has control of the company producing your favorite software sequencer. Does that bother you a bit? It just tears me up inside.
Nope - not in the least. (Although to be honest, I am unlikely to purchase it either). I think it is great though, that they are trying to innovate. (Like others I don't see the lack of 64 bit as a big deal - this is more about trying to roll out a somewhat abstract paradigm to gauge/develop accessability - like a mouse based gui to a keyboard world). Too much emphasis in the industry on a hardware analogous user interface. In the final analysis, though, it all boils down to buy or don't buy.
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djjhart@aol.com
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 12:55:52
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64 bit probably won't make any difference but being its the norm to develop programs with 64 bit , I personally would only buy 64 bit programs now as I will never buy j bridge .. Scince making the switch to 64 bit my system has never run smoother .. Quick quak has this same software for $100 less n it's 64 bit http://www.quikquak.com/Prod_MashTactic.html
post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2012/01/04 13:22:30
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 13:24:50
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some people don't change their studio setup for years.. so 32 bit will be around for a while yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp_tkFuzn3E&feature=related and well it's not exactly aimed at us. look at the +side , Noel and his colleagues have access to the "tech" and code involved in it, if they aren't involved with it already.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 13:57:52
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And if you look at the products Cake offers there are more than a few consumer goods offered. Spin off some tech and sell it to the masses and hope to make a few bucks. What's wrong w/ that?
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/04 15:04:28
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The "color-coded clouds of energy and harmonic matter" could be much biggerer and betterer? Bingo! I would post far less on this forum if I didn't know that at least Drew would get the joke even if no one else would. Judging software by whether or not it comes in a 64-bit version only makes sense in specific scenarios. In most others, it is absolutely irrelevant. General-purpose operating systems, yes. DAWs that host sample libraries, yes. Angry Birds on your telephone, no. I once saw a can of pop that declared "Zero Transfats!". And there was a jar of jam that proudly announced "No Preservatives!". As with the old favorite, "Digitally Remastered!", these are marketing ploys that coldly leverage consumer ignorance.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/05 12:24:25
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The "color-coded clouds of energy and harmonic matter" could be much biggerer and betterer?
Bingo! I would post far less on this forum if I didn't know that at least Drew would get the joke even if no one else would.
It's funny you should say that, because sometimes I'll post something and think, "I don't know about anyone else, but maybe Dave will find this amusing".
Judging software by whether or not it comes in a 64-bit version only makes sense in specific scenarios. In most others, it is absolutely irrelevant. General-purpose operating systems, yes. DAWs that host sample libraries, yes. Angry Birds on your telephone, no.
I once saw a can of pop that declared "Zero Transfats!". And there was a jar of jam that proudly announced "No Preservatives!". As with the old favorite, "Digitally Remastered!", these are marketing ploys that coldly leverage consumer ignorance.
To be fair, if someone doesn't have a certain kind of technical or computing background, they can easily be confused by what matters and what doesn't (and may not even understand that something doesn't always matter). However I really don't understand when someones seems to accept it when told something doesn't matter, but they seem to still really, really want it anyway.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/05 12:54:39
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To be fair, if someone doesn't have a certain kind of technical or computing background, they can easily be confused by what matters and what doesn't (and may not even understand that something doesn't always matter).
However I really don't understand when someones seems to accept it when told something doesn't matter, but they seem to still really, really want it anyway.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/05 20:58:55
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I would say 64 bit matters even if the program doesn't need it because often times the 32 bit version goes buggy with sonar.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/06 16:32:10
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+1 to that - 32bit and Sonar X1 does seem less stable to me so 64bit IS important!
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/08 00:02:55
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I would say 64 bit matters even if the program doesn't need it because often times the 32 bit version goes buggy with sonar.
In the context of a DAW (or at least Sonar), +1. Since going 64, every bug I have had has been down to either a bad driver which has since been fixed, or a 32 bit plugin which didn't play nicely. Furthermore, none of the problematic 32 bit plugins have bothered me when they were upgraded to 64 bit. As far as rmix goes, I recall that program is supposed to be a standalone and not a plugin. I don't know the calculations behind it, but i don't expect that it would require more than 4GB of memory to do them.
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/08 06:22:29
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I once saw a can of pop that declared "Zero Transfats!". And there was a jar of jam that proudly announced "No Preservatives!". As with the old favorite, "Digitally Remastered!", these are marketing ploys that coldly leverage consumer ignorance.
complete sidetrack, I know, but the "NO PRESERVATIVES" really gets me. look at the ingredients on those items claiming "no preservatives" and see how much sodium there is. 
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/08 06:24:42
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I thnk I'll go write a 64bit app called "Angry Birds X1" 2.0 Phone App. 
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Re:Is Roland really this backwards
2012/01/08 15:33:11
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bitflipper
I once saw a can of pop that declared "Zero Transfats!". And there was a jar of jam that proudly announced "No Preservatives!". As with the old favorite, "Digitally Remastered!", these are marketing ploys that coldly leverage consumer ignorance.
complete sidetrack, I know, but the "NO PRESERVATIVES" really gets me. look at the ingredients on those items claiming "no preservatives" and see how much sodium there is.
Yes sodium is a preservative, and sugar actually is as well.
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